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    Epeidh molis twra ekatsa kai diavasa kapoies selides apo to thread na kanw mia erwtish: einai toso katakriteo kapoios na exei epileksei na mhn asxoleitai me thn politikh?

    Estw sto epipedo pou asxoleistai eseis oi psagmenoi. Dld proswpika kai eidiseis tha katsw na akousw kai mia matia stis efimerides tha riksw (mono stis mainstream, sorry) kai radio tha akousw wste na kserw ti paizetai panw katw gyrw mou alla to thewrw xasimo xronou na diavasw 493,9 vivlia panw sto idio thema wste na eimai se thesh na kanw psagmenes syzitheis se forums sto internet. Eimai vodi kai an einai na katsw na diavasw vivlio tha protimisw kapoio me psexagwgiko periexomeno pou den exei ypshles apaithseis se faia ousia. Sthn telikh einai kai auto pou eipe o freak borthel, ti allakse me ola auta? Kai vevaiws den tha eixa thn idia stash an epikratousan pio akraies katastaseis, px an zousame thn eptaetia (oxi tou olympiakou) alla twra mou fenetai pws psaxnetai psilous sta axyra.

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    akrivws o typos polith pou thelei to kratos tha mou poun twra.

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    allo pragma to politikopoiimeno atomo kai allo to kommatopoiimeno.
    to na parakoloutheis eidiseis, na xereis genika ti ginetai ston planiti gi, einai kalo.
    to na min eisai entagmenos se kapoio komma, einai prosopiki epilogi.
    to na eisai fanatiko melos kapoiou kommatos kai na theleis na epivaleis tin apopsi sou stous allous, einai o,ti heirotero.

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    nai ok.as arxisoume na leme ta xilioeipomena tora.(noou ofens maria)

    kapoies paratiriseis :

    1/ to na parakoloutheis tis eidiseis kai na ksereis ti ginetai ston planiti gi safws kai einai kalo,alla einai kai dyskolo.kai ennoo ton tropo enimerosis pou epilegei o kathenas.to kathe tileoptiko kanali/radiofonikos stathmos/efimerida/periodiko ktl provalei tis eidiseis me tetoio tropo,wste na ofeleitai to idio (kati pou den to katakrino prosopika,prepei na vgaloun ki autoi to psomi tous),me apotelesma eidiseis,gegonota,sxolia na parousiazontai me teleiws ypokeimenikous tropous => diastrevlosi.kai auto isxyei akoma kai gia ta "aneksartita" mesa enimerosis (pou btw exoun ginei poly tis modas teleutaia,vl indymedia ktl) .kaneis den mporei na me peisei gia tin orthotita auton pou parousiazontai.i moni lysi na enimerotheis sosta einai na lamvaneis plirofories apo polla diaforetika mesa enimerosis kai na tis diastavroneis,etsi oste sto telos na katafereis na ksexoriseis ta gegonota (me tin kyriolektiki simasia tis leksis) kai apo kei kai pera na vgaleis symperasmata monos sou.auto omos einai eks'orismou dyskolo,kathws einai kai xronovoro (prepei na enimeronesai synexws) kai thelei "treksimo" (na deis eidiseis se kanalia,na akouseis radiofono,na diavaseis ekseidikeumena periodika,na rikseis kai mia matia sto net) kai fysika exei kai megalo kostos.kai de nomizo na exoun polloi apo mas/esas/autous na exoun tin polyteleia auti (i katerina px mporei na to kanei auto,kathws einai i douleia tis na parakolouthei tis ekselikseis).

    2/ to 90% ton atomon pou exo gnorisei,ta opoia asxolountai me ta koina,eite autonoma,eite me tis plates (me tin kali ennoia) kapoias parataksis,einai apo aparadekta eos tragika.oi men kommatikopoiimenoi exoun skopo tin autoprovoli kai tin pseudaisthisi tis eksousias,oi de "autonomoi" (kyriws "anarxikoi" wannabes) einai kati kompleksika typakia.apla prosopiki mou paratirisi kai krisi.auto vevea de simainei oti den yparxoun kai ok atoma se olo auto to panigiri.apla einai apelpistika liga kai xanontai mesa sto olo synothyleuma.

    3/ yparxoun PARA polloi pou parolo pou (isxyrizontai oti) den anikoun se kanena komma prospathoun na sou epivaloun tin apopsi tous.kai to xeirotero einai o tropos pou prospathoun na to kanoun auto.oxi provalontas kai yperaspizontas tis dikes tous idees,alla meionontas kai xleuazontas tis dikes sou.

    auta ta liga apo ena apoktinomeno gourouni pou de noiazetai gia to kalo tou topou mas

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    για να πω την αλήθεια βαρέθηκα να διαβάσω όλες τις σελίδες του thread αλλά το είχα παρακολουθήσει στην αρχή...

    τα έχω ζήσει και εγώ "από μέσα" αυτά τα πράγματα (συνδικαλισμός κτλ), έστω και σε πραγματικά ανεξάρτητη φάση, και απογοητεύτικα... δυστυχώς -απλοποιητικά- η φάση είναι όπως την περιγράφει ο SL (2/ ...) πάνω κάτω...
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    sympo: to 90% twn anthrwpwn pou DEN anikoun se paratajeis den einai episis tragiko?
    Es el sonido de su mundo derrumbándose/Es el del nuestro resurgiendo
    El día que fue el día, era noche/Y noche será el día que será el día

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    xm
    nai.
    alla toulaxiston autous den tous troo sti mapa san politikous analytes kai ypermaxous ton dikaiomaton mou.(tous troo sti mapa allios alla auto einai mia alli syzitisi)

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    Gia to Indymedia pou les, grafoun atoma apo kathe logis apopsewn akoma kai xrisavgites (dn kanw plaka), oi opioi kata kirio logo dioxnonte (tha pw giati gia opion anarotiete) alla merikoi kathonte ke lene "eimai xrisavgitis alla min me kopsete thelw na milisoume". O logos pou kovonte einai pws to indymedia dn einai 100% eleuthero site alla exei politiki dimosiefsis, kai h politiki dimosieusis leei ksekathara:
    "Το Indymedia Αθήνας δεν διαγράφει δημοσιεύσεις, αλλά έχει τη δυνατότητα να κρύβει δημοσιεύσεις όταν:
    είναι φασιστικού/ρατσιστικού περιεχομένου"

    Autos einai o logos pou krivonte ta misa posts xrisavgitwn.
    Sto indymedia efoson grafoun kathe logis atoma otidipote einai pseutiko 'h krivete 'h apantiete ke o kathenas mpori na krini pio einai gia auton to sosto. Etsi h antipliroforisi (dn to lew egw, etsi onomazete) ginete me ton kalitero tropo efoson ta psemata apantiounte. einai vevea elaxistes fores opou merika pernane autusia.
    H pragmatikothta einai apla mia katastash toy myaloy...
    Ftiaxneis ena paralogo kosmo ki amesws exeis 4000000 paranoikoys an8rwpoys.

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    afou lithikan thelw na pistevw merika pragmata, thelw na pw kapia pragmata...

    politikoi analites gia mena prepei na ginoune oloi ke tha eksigisw giati... politiki dn einai na sizitisis me tin amerikaniki kivernisi kserogo, politiki einai h pedia, h thriskia (h thriskia einai to opiou tou laou elege kapios alla ama pw pios tha mou peite pali gia propaganda klp), h ygeia, oi times kserogo sta tsigara, einai pragmata tromera amesa se emas, emeis ta zoume.
    Kathena apo auta eksipireti kapia simferonta eite to theloume eite oxi. Kalo einai na exeis kritiki skepsi apenanti se auta, kalo einai na ta kritikaris kai kalo einai na maxese na ginoune kalitera. Gia mena, kai tha to lew panta auto eite me vrizoune eite oxi, prepei na amfisvitis ta panta, otidipote vriskete giro sou, ama anikis se kapion ideologiko xwro na amfisvitis akoma kai auton. Oso asxolise me auta olo kai pio olokliromeni apopsi mporis na exeis, oso diavazis gia auta (akoma dn ktlvenw pios o logos na min protinis vivlia) toso kalitera siniditopiise. O skopos dn einai na afinis tin politiki sta omorfostolismena grafia 'h stous "ypermaxous twn dikeomatwn" opws eipe kapios alla na fereis tin politiki stous dromous (kai dn enow na ktvis stous dromous na agonistis alla na sizitisis gia auta na peis tin apopsi sou, na antalaksis apopsis me allous).

    PS. gia to "xlevazontas" pou les, egw eipa oti itan lathos mou ke zitisa signomi giauto, alla prepei na paradextis pws kai esi to ekanes ke malista me pio asximo tropo.
    H pragmatikothta einai apla mia katastash toy myaloy...
    Ftiaxneis ena paralogo kosmo ki amesws exeis 4000000 paranoikoys an8rwpoys.

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    den katalavaino giati epimeneis na xoneis ton eauto sou sta legomena mou.leo alli mia fora oti osa eipa den itan prosopiki epithesi se sena,apla ypirkses i aformi.
    episis to indymedia anaferthike os ena aplo paradeigma "aneksartitou" mesou enimerosis (dld oxi kanalia,efimerides ktl),to opoio para tin "autonomia" tou den einai 100% aksiopisto,kati to opoio eipes ki esy,prosthetontas malista tin xilioeipomeni ekfrasi "kritiki skepsi".dld en oligois leme akrivos to idio prama.
    ta ypoloipa legomena sou den ta sxoliazo,kathws ta vrisko klasikes aristeristikes (kai oxi mono) genikologies (me ti gkali ennoia).

    varethika auti tin kouventa

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    To indymedia dn mpori na apotelesi tin pio antikimeniki pigi apantaxou tis ghs, kai auto giati kati tetio tha apetouse tin simetoxi tou 100% tou kosmou (praktika adinato), omws einai auto pou plisiazi perisotero sto antikimeniko, epidi grafoune para polloi, ke einai arketoi autoi pou mporoun na diapseusoune ta "kakos legomena" (dld peri istorias 'h mias eidisis poune psevdis). Episis mporis ana pasa stigmi na pas sta indymedia tou eksoterikou kai mazi me mia mixani metafrasis na deis ti "pezete" ekei, pragma idietera kalo. Dn diafonw pws leme to idio gia to Indy, dn ine anagki na diafonoume panta , aplos theorise to kati poupa epiprostheta oxi antitheta tis apopsis sou.
    H pragmatikothta einai apla mia katastash toy myaloy...
    Ftiaxneis ena paralogo kosmo ki amesws exeis 4000000 paranoikoys an8rwpoys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnesiac
    gamw to xristo sou Solo Carriera. mi gamas to General Discussion.

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    delfinoi ths eksousias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud
    delfinoi ths eksousias.
    Και καρχαρίες του καθεστώτος.

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    ...kapos kathysterhmena kanw thn eisodo mou sto thread ...
    me ttravhkse vasika to topic giati diavasa to vivlio me ayto ton titlo prin ena mhna

    To kako me thn propaganda einai oti pragmatika den ksereis pou na strafeis...
    O kathenas propagandizei tis apopseis toy kai pera apo tis aoristies "na akous oles tis apopseis kai na krineis", prepei na ksereis kai to ti paizetai sto paraskhnio kathe ypotheshs.

    Kai to provlhma einai oti ta "paidia" ths propagandas propagandizoun xoris na to katalavainoun...kai ayto einai to xeirotero giati aytoi den prokeitai na allaksoyn.

    Epishs otan arxiseis na amfisvhteis th mia phgh plhroforhshs prepei na amfisvhthseis oles, kai ayto kapoia stigmh mporei na se odhghsei se mia arnhsh kai enan agnostikismo pou einai to idio san na mhn endiaferthikes pote na vreis thn alithia. Einai mia pagida...alla aksizei ton kopo na to riskareis giati allios tha koimasai gia panta...

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