Lynyrd Skynyrd και Southern Spirit Split, λοιπόν.

[UmbilicalResidue]

Me aformh tous stixous pou parate8hkan sto Theikoi Stixoi.
Mporei na eimai entelws la8os alla apo oso gnwrizw gyrw apo
to 8ema oi Lynyrd Skynyrd den periorizontai aplws se romantikes
anafores gia ton amerikaniko noto kai ton talaipwrhmeno lao tou
alla yposthrizoun thn right-wing ideologia.
Exw afth thn eikona apo tis fotografiseis ths bandas me shmaies
twn confederals alla kyriws apo to istoriko tou kommatiou
sweet home alabama to opoio ap'oso dynamai na gnwrizw
einai apanthsh se kapoies anafores tou Neil Young sthn drash ths
kkk kai ston typo tou notiou ratsisth sta kommatia "Alabama" kai "Southern Man".
Sygekrimena oi Skynyrd lene sto SWA :

Well, I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down.
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
a southern man don't need him around anyhow.

Enw o Young anaferetai pentaka8ara sthn tromokratia
twn kaiomenwn stavrwn ths kkk, sthn dogmatikh
antimetwpish tou 'good book', sthn allagh twn antilhpsewn
ston noto apenanti ston synthritismo tou emfyliou
kai sthn terastia oikonomikh ekmetallevsh twn ftwxwn
mavrwn me tis kalyves apo tous plousious lefkous
gaiokthmones me ta megala mansions.


Southern Man


Southern man
better keep your head
Don't forget
what your good book said
Southern change
gonna come at last
Now your crosses
are burning fast
Southern man

I saw cotton
and I saw black
Tall white mansions
and little shacks.
Southern man
when will you
pay them back?
I heard screamin'
and bullwhips cracking
How long? How long?

Southern man
better keep your head
Don't forget
what your good book said
Southern change
gonna come at last
Now your crosses
are burning fast
Southern man

Lily Belle,
your hair is golden brown
I've seen your black man
comin' round
Swear by God
I'm gonna cut him down!
I heard screamin'
and bullwhips cracking
How long? How long?


Epishs nomizw oti yparxoun sxetikes synentevkseis
twn Skynyrd me proklhtikes dhlwseis apenanti ston
filef8erismo ston noto. An eimai la8os dior8wste me.

[freak brother]

αμερικλανιες

[Rush]

koita na deis re magka:bariemai na psaxnw twra palia teyxh periodikwn,alla 8ymamai ka8ara se mia synenteyksh tou Van Zant gia to proswpiko twn 2 bros sto hammah pou o Kisajekian tous rwtaei xyma ti paizei kai apantoun oti oudepote den diakatexontan apo ratsistika feelings h eixan tetoies anafores sth mousikh tous.Ayto to xw diabasei kai se polles synenteykseis online.Twra 8a parakalesw ton Jim Dandy na kanei ena list me OLOUS tous southern diskous poy exei kai na mas pei an pote exei synanthsei kati ratsistiko h right wing like stous stixous,sto artwork h allou.Kai to lew ayto giati o Jim exei POLY prama kai otan akouei ena disko den ksynei t'arxidia tou.Exei panta stixous ana xeiras kai einai 100% focused.

se ligo 8a mas peite oti kai to madares mou Xaniwtikes,koryfh tou Pshloreith,kai Lasi8iwtika bouna,geia sou pantermh Krhth einai right winged

[freak brother]

μανταρες μου χανιωτικες btw εχει κανεις να μου το στειλει?

[Rush]

Μαδάρες einai.Sto grafw ama 8es.

[UmbilicalResidue]

ye, Se kammia periptwsh de lew oti otidhpote karabinato
southern h kai arketa folklore genika ferei synthrhtikes
sfragides einai right-wing ktlp. (Na kserasw to Comfort thn
epomenh fora pou to vazw sto larygi mou )
Eimai sygekrimenos kai lew oti gia na antidrasei kapoios
etsi sthn anafora tou Young ston noto kati trexei.
Oi sxetikes dhlwseis den eime8a ratsistes de lene kai
tpt btw e.

[Jim Dandy Mangrum]

arxika h shmaia htan ena symvolo maxhs kai mono (egine koinh metaksy twn stratiwtwn, pou mh mou peis oti htan aristokrates?) afou epishmh national flag den htan auth, alla alles (teleiws diaforetikes 'h periexomenh sautes, argotera omws). prosfata sthn politeia tou mississippi egine dhmopshfisma gia thn allagh ths shmaias pou periexetai h war flag, omws kai oi mauroi akoma pshfhsan kata afou thn theoroun cult istoriko symvolo me mousikes pia proektaseis. eides ti ekanan sto symvolo auto oi skynyrd?
oi skynyrd periorizontai se "romantikes" anafores gia ton amer. noto giati einai aploi anthrwpoi kai oxi aristokrates. dld exeis thn entypwsh oti katw ekei yphrxan mono asproi aristokrates kai mauroi sklavoi? eisai vathia nyktwmenos!! oi plousioi htan ligoi. oi perissoteroi leukoi prwspathousan na veltiwsoun thn kathymerhnothta tous. vevaia o ratsismos, pou eixe kallierghthei apo palia, epikratei mexri prosfata gia polous kai diaforous logous (kyriws politikous). omws h mousikh kai ta sygkrothmata auta htan prwtergates sth dialysh autou tou karkinou. re paidia to southern einai syndiasmos twn "maurwn" blues/soul kai twn "leukwn" rock'n'loll/country.
o neil young (theos & canados!) panw sthn pikra tou gia ta gegonota pou exoun shmadepsei anekseithla ton U.S. noto, genikeuse to thema kai enoxlhse anthrwpous pou oxi mono den exoun sxesh & den theloun sigoura na ta thymountai, alla & pou diafwnoun katheta me rarsistikes energeies.
euxaristw ton rush gia auta pou anaferei kai pragmatika den tha afierwna toso xrono se kati pou den exw psaksei.
me aformh thn agaph pou gia auth th mousikh & genika thn amerikanikh mousikh (apo country/folk mexri kai black metal), exw asxwlhthei & diavasei poly gia thn istoria tous kai paradexwmai oti sto politiko skhniko ta exoun gamhsei. omws thn monadikh kai alhthinh parathwsh pou exoun as mhn tous thn paroume.

[UmbilicalResidue]

o neil young (theos & canados!) panw sthn pikra tou gia ta gegonota pou exoun shmadepsei anekseithla ton U.S. noto, genikeuse to thema kai enoxlhse anthrwpous pou oxi mono den exoun sxesh & den theloun sigoura na ta thymountai, alla & pou diafwnoun katheta me rarsistikes energeies.

ba de nomizw oti o young einai ypervolikos.
skiagrafei kai dhgmatizei thn eikona tou kakou notiou mia epoxh
allaghs ekfrazwntas thn proodeftikh amerikh kai polloi apo thn
'skhnh' ekeinoi opws oi mountain h oi ccr proxeira proxeira ton
akolou8oun. Den katalavainw thn eirwnikh anafora twn skynyrd
safton kai ti shmainei telospantwn "o notos de se xreiazetai pia"
kyriws otan apef8ynesai se enan mousiko opws o Young.

euxaristw ton rush gia auta pou anaferei kai pragmatika den tha afierwna toso xrono se kati pou den exw psaksei.
me aformh thn agaph pou gia auth th mousikh & genika thn amerikanikh mousikh (apo country/folk mexri kai black metal), exw asxwlhthei & diavasei poly gia thn istoria tous kai paradexwmai oti sto politiko skhniko ta exoun gamhsei. omws thn monadikh kai alhthinh parathwsh pou exoun as mhn tous thn paroume.

Opws eipa pio panw se kamia periptwsh den diagrafw thn mousikh
paradosh tou amerikanikou notou. 8a prepei na einai tyflos h
amousos kapoios gia na mhn anagnwrisei thn terastia prosfora tou
sta perissotera eidh pou kinountai se rock, blues kai
jazz formes kai niw8w pws einai peritto na anaferw oti kai gw
emmesa h amesa eimai galouxhmenos apo afth thn mousikh.
Sto katw katw giati oxi akoma kai paradosiaka antidrastikoi
politika kallitexnes kyriws apo ton xwro ths country opws o
Johny Cash exoun prosferei ta megista sth mousikh genika.
Wstoso mia sfairikh apopsh gyrw apo ta aspects ka8e kallitexnh
xreiazetai panta.

[morphine]

πολύ ωραίο τόπικ =)
Με ενδιαφέρει κιόλας γιατί θέλω να κάνω μια εργασία πάνω σε αυτό το θέμα (ρατσισμός και φυλετικές προκαταλήψεις στην πόπχιουλαρ μουσική). Υπάρχει περίπτωση εσείς οι γνώστες να πείτε κατιτίς παραπάνω εδώ ή να κάνω ξεχωριστό τόπικ να μου δώκετε τα φώτα σας;

[Retali-ator]

boro na sou po oti thes sxetiko me BLACK METAL

[UmbilicalResidue]

(ρατσισμός και φυλετικές προκαταλήψεις στην πόπχιουλαρ μουσική).

de nomizw oti katalavainw to 8ema apolyta.
klasika ksekina to apodw kai vlepoume omws

[morphine]

χμ το σκέφτηκα ως "racism and racial prejudice in popular music" αλλά δεν είμαι και πολύ σίγουρη τι θέλω να πω. Μάλλον θα ψάξω για περιστατικά διαφόρων ειδών- οτιδήποτε σχετικό με ρατσισμό και φυλετικές διαφορές- από τα πολύ μικρά μέχρι τα πολύ μεγάλα. Δηλαδή αν κάποτε απαγορεύτηκε σε κάποιο μαύρο μουσικό να συμμετέχει σε δουλειά λευκών για παράδειγμα, θα το αναφέρω. Αν κάποτε κάποιος λευκός καλλιτέχνης σκότωσε κάποιο μαύρο λόγω χρώματος, θα το αναφέρω κι αυτό :ρ Επίσης θα ψάξω για τραγούδια με σχετικούς στίχους, είτε ρατσιστικούς είτε αντιρατσιστικούς, όπως αυτό του neil young πχ ή το blackbird των beatles μαζί με ερμηνεία μιας και δεν είναι ξεκάθαρο το νόημα.
Κάτι τέτοιο.

[blackbird]

Otan efyge o Noel Reading apo to hendrix thewrithike oti itan douleia twn bllack panthers
de xerw kata poso isxyei pantws tha vreis arketes eiikasies sto thema hendrix-panthers
Edit:gia to blackbird exw mia wraia analysi ama einai tou parontos tha postarw(pisteuw morph tha exeis kati analogo)

[UmbilicalResidue]

Totenes kane thread nanaferoume peristatika na goustaroume.

[Jim Dandy Mangrum]

o young me to na anaferei thn ekfrasei "southern man" gia ola auta ta asxhma vazei sto idio tsouvali olous tous notious. eprepe na einai pio diakritikos, giati gia autous ekei katw einai ena poly lepto thema. egw borei na ton dikaiologw. omws oi skynyrd giati na to dextoun? tosoi anthrwpoi pou den eftaiksan pote giati na to dextoun? o notos dld einai mono auta ta gegonota?
vevaiws kai eginan ola auta pou anaferei o young. omws mhpws ksexnaei pragmata? oi "northern men" pou ypokritika xrhshmopoihsan thn "eleutheria" twn maurwn ws "en touto nika" htan kalyteroi? aplws oloi koitagan to kerdos tous! oi notioi eixan to syntrhptiko pososto twn sklavwn. ara oi katastasoi tous symfere. to oti valane tous ftwxous na polemhsoun einai thema politikhs eksousias. sunhthws etsi de ginetai? (ase pou kai meta thn "apeleutherwsh" tous oi mauroi antimetwpizan provlhmata se oles tis U.S., apla sta notia ta pragmata htan pio edona)
o young epishs ksexnaei oti se olh th voria amerikh oi progonoi tou eksolothreusan anelehta ametrhtes fyles indianwn?
h istoria exei apodeiksei oti apo poly palia sto eswteriko twn megalwn dynamewn yphrxe tromerh koinwnikh ekmetaleush.

gia na epanelthw, oi skynyrd einai apla yperhfanoi rock'n"pollades pou agapane thn perioxh pou genhthhkan kai megalwsan. toso kako einai auto?
oso gia katastaseis me maurous kai asprous mousikous sigoura tha yparxoun, kai isws perissotero sta '50 & '60. gia dolofonies den exw akousta kai den pisteuw na exoun ginei. pantws gia thetika paradeigmata borw na koitaksw, opws twn allman brothers kai twn wet willie pou eixan kai exoun melh maurous mousikous. (kai oi suffocation pou exoun twra mauro drummer ).parepiptwntos oi skynyrd eixan san idrytiko melos (einai kai sth teleutaia synthesh) ton rickey medlocke, native ths fylhs twn blackfoot kai arxhgou tou southern/metal (yeah!) epikou sygkrothmatos "blackfoot". (lete enas indianos na epaize se deksia banda?)
ena periergo paradeigma einai o ted nugent, enas terastios mousikos pou exei ephreasei (kai paiksei) to heavy metal oso ligoi. o ted den einai ratsistis afou ektos aptis apoires "maures" epiroes, exei paiksei kai tzamarei me polous maurous mousikous, opws kai me to hendrix p.x.. omws eidikeutai stis akraies deksies dhlwseis opws "sometimes the war is the answer...". ti na tou peis twra! telospantwn dikaiologeitai giati einai koufos apto ena auti

y.g.: sorry gia to megethos kai thn kourastikh syntaksh.