Nai, oloi autoi einai sumbolismoi, alla de xero kata poso i tainia proupothetei tin uparxi tou uperfusikou...
Nai, oloi autoi einai sumbolismoi, alla de xero kata poso i tainia proupothetei tin uparxi tou uperfusikou...
loipon thn eida ki egw epitelous. Prin apo ola na pw oti mou arese. Mexri th maxh me ton Bane me kourase ligo giati hmoun kai xalia, alla meta apo ayto kai eidika apo tote pou arxise h eisbolh h tainioula gamhse apisteyta.
Kai nai men isws fainetai oti olh h tainia einai mia maxh ousiastika, alla mhn ksexnate oti eixe alles dyo tainies gia na anaptyxthei to senario. Opote twra mas dinetai h koryfwsh, ayto pou perimenoume apo thn arxh.
Oson afora to ti paixthke telika, oute kai egw exw safh apanthsh (mexri na to dw polles fores akoma), kai den nomizw pws htan ayto stis protheseis twn dhmiourgwn. Pio poly hthelimena to afhsan ligo sto flou, akoma ki an fanhke pws to telos einai symbibastiko or whatever.
Pragma pou den isxyei, afou osoi perimenan ton Neo na ginei o super duper champion of earth kai na katastrepsei me thn skepsh tous tis kakes mhxanes are in for a surprise (kai mallon aytoi tha einai pou tha thaboun twra thn tainia) Thymhtheite kai ton dialogo me ton senator sto Rel, opou milagan gia allhloeksarthsh kai symbiwsh me tis mhxanes. Kai giati na ginei etsi, sto katw katw, afou oi anthrwpoi "eftaigan" gia ton polemo genikotera, deite Second Renaisance I&II
Akyra eixe merika, opws h anousia megalh skhnh tou thanatou ths malakws, pou kathotan paloukwmenh epi deka lepta kai milage kai th skhnh ths eisbolhs pou nai men emena me afhse malaka, alla isws xreiazontan ligo editing, Alla DEN einai ikana na xalasoun thn tainia se osous pane na doun ena gamato sci-fi action ergo. Osoi perimenan polla parapanw, opws na ksanagraftei h apokalypsh or sth...
Kai matrix-mesa-se-matrix den nomizw na yparxei, apla to Matrix den katastrafhke telika, opws blepoume sto telos, isws malista na egine kai reset
...you will die like a dog for no good reason.
Re gmt, pantws oloi auto nomizame sthn arxh...oti to matrix einai ena terastio leitourgiko susthma me sub-level matrix... skata...toulaxiston akoma auto thelw na pisteuw. Den mporw na dianoithw oti htan toso gia ton poutso. Tespa, to concept sunexizetai mesa apo to online game Matrix...fraaaagkaaaaaaaaaaaa..
Assumptions:
1. Mathematics is the language of nature
2. Everything around is can be represented and understood by numbers
3. If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge
Evidence:
1. The cycling of disease epidemics
2. The wax and wan of caribou populations
3. Sunspot cycles
4. The rise and fall of the Nile River
koita h ekshghsh pou (den) dwsane den leei oti prokeitai gia dyo matrix. apla ki wraia, o neo egine theos. twra an ayto to dexteis, 'h an theleis na pisteyeis oti pragmati htan sub-levels einai allo thema (na thymisw btw, oti sto blade runner, h diamaxh gia to an o Deckard einai androeides 'h oxi krathse pollaaaa xronia)
...you will die like a dog for no good reason.
molis eida thn tainia, kai dustixos thn eida sto pc me athlio ho kai xwris upotitlous tespa tha thn ksanadw na thn empedwsw..
loipon exoume kai leme, prwta apo ola dexomai oti to reloaded kai to revolutions einai perisotero san mia tainia para san duo.. opote to senario kai ta erwthmata pou dhmiourgounte sto 2 me kalhptoun gia to 3 pou ousiastika stamatas na anarwtiese toso... epishs to 3o mou fanhke polu pio "sumpages" apo to 2, oi skhnes draseis vlepe plakoma neo-smiths sto duo an kai kalh krathse polu kai psilokourase.. kati to opio den eixe sto 3, vevaia eixe pali neo-smiths alla den krathse toso (h toulaxiston etsi mou fanhke) kai vevaia h mazh sthn zion gamhse...
loipon auta twra gia ton neo.. nai men fanhke na pernei dunameis alla den ton eidame oute na petaei oute na perpataei se toixous oute tpt.. ousiastika epiroh panw stis mhxanes eixe... pou ton kouraze kiolas, oxi opws sto matrix...
kai auto me ton smith nai men mporei na upodhlosei oti uparxei kapia sxesh matrix me ton "pragmatiko" kosmo alla apo thn allh meria afou ta programata , oi mhxanes dld mporoun na "zoun" kai na exoun nohmoshnh ktl giati na mhn mporei na epizhsei kai ena prog mesa sto anthrwpino swma?
den kserw genika den me xalase kai mporw na pw oti oi 2 wres perasan arketa grhgora.. an kai pisteuw oti sto telos o neo eprepe na pethanei.. estw sumvolika, tha ekleine polu kalhtera pisteuw... estw na "pethene ws eklektos" tespa..
btw o smith polu gamaw den egine ksafnhka? kai petage kai oti goustare ekane ti sto dialo? entometaksi tous agents tous ksexasane teliws... a kai auto pou me xalase para polu kai sto 2 kai sto 3 einai oti o neo sto telos tou prwtou ekane oti goustare an thimaste ton smith ton eixe skotosei gia plaka sto telos kai upotithete monima.. meta ta ksexnaei afta? kanonika olous eprepe na tous eixe.. auta
"Caladan Brood, the menhired one, winter-bearing, barrowed and sorrowless
in a tomb bereaved of words, and in his hands that have crushed anvils the hammer of his song -
he lives asleep, so give silent warning to all -
wake him not.
Wake him not."
ksanadesto
ksanadesta ola
exeis xasei epeisodia
...you will die like a dog for no good reason.
Nai, polla epeisodia. O Neo pethane ontos. O teleutaios Smith gamage giati eixe bei mesa stin Oracle. Episis den eidame pollous agents giati to 70% tou ergou itan ston pragmatiko kosmo, opos eprepe diladi. Episis meta apo polli skepsi apofasisa oti de tha goustara katholou matrix mesa sto matrix, alla episis tha protimousa isos kati allo apo na einai o Neo o gamias ton efta ipeiron KAI ston pragmatiko kosmo. Vevaia apo tin alli, me mia exigisi pou exo dosei ston eauto mou (kai kaneis de borei na mou pei tipota, giati to afisan free to thema) eimai entelos ikanopoiimenos, alla perimeno na mou exigisei kapoios allos kana duo apories, pou isos einai apla etsi opos tis upotheto.
1. Pos eixe pagideutei o Neo metaxy tou matrix kai tou real world?
2. Pos pethane o Smith?
3. Giati den edeixe kolo kai vuzia i Monica?
Tha thela na akouso apopseis apo osous to eidan gia na mou poun giati o Neo gamage kai ston pragmatiko kosmo, kati pou na mou exigei omos xoris na perilamavanei ti frasi: "ela more, tainia einai". Exo mia apantisi, alla den eimai kai sigouros. Episis den pisteuo stin exigisi uparxis theou.
xm h ekshghsh (pou edwsan sthn tainia) fainetai ligo malakia, alla psilostekei. eipan oti o The One einai syndedemenos me The Source, me liga logia mesa sto kefali tou neo yparxei kati san programma, to opoio telika tou epitrepei na gamaei kai na dernei kai ektos matrix. To opoio to dexesai an skefteis oti kai o Smith "grafthke" sto myalo tou Bane bgainontas apo to matrix. kai mhn ksexname oti o Architect tou leei sto Rel: "although the process has altered your conciousness, you remain human". E sto rev kanei to epomeno bhma
...you will die like a dog for no good reason.
xoum ontos auto me ton neo isws htan ligo akuro shmera pou ksanaeida to telos alla nomizw oti to afhnei psilo flou..
nai re mpike sthn oracle alla h oracle ipotithete oti exei alles dunameis, ektos an ola metafrazontai se physical(leme twra) dunamh h ektos an h oracle petage tespa auto den einai kai toso sumantiko mporeis na doseis polles erminies..
ok kai me tous agents ti na ekanan kai autoi afou oi alloi gamagan alla apo to ena upotithete oti eixan kapio skopo.. ego tha ithela na dw merikous "upgrated" agents (oxi upgrated opws sto 2..) dld an eixan thn klasikh taxuthta kai kana ability opws auto pou eixan oi asproi tupades tou galou ( ) gia na gamhsoun ton smith monoi tous
alla mallon prepei na katsw na dw kai ta 3 sthn seira kapia stigmh tespa... apo osa aegrapsa epanw pali kapia mporei na einai akura epidi ksanalew den to eida kinhmatografo(oxi apo oikonomia..) to katevasa kai exei skatopoiothta.. idiaitera ston hxo kai profanos den exei upotitlous.. tespa den htan toso dusnohto pantos oso to 2 apla prepei na aktseis na ta psilo sunopsiseis ola mou fainetai...
"Caladan Brood, the menhired one, winter-bearing, barrowed and sorrowless
in a tomb bereaved of words, and in his hands that have crushed anvils the hammer of his song -
he lives asleep, so give silent warning to all -
wake him not.
Wake him not."
ntaksi i belucci itan 8ea 8ea 8ea.......ligo kolaraki parapanw 8a ekanan tin tainia teleia
gia ta erwtimata tou fixxxer exw kapoies apantiseis alla einai arga kai barieme na grafw katebata.....
I swear on tomorrow, if you take this chance
Our lives are this moment, the music - the dance
And here in this labyrinth of lost mysteries
I close my eyes on this night and you're all that I see
1.Originally Posted by Fixxxer
Tora pou to skeftomai oute ego to exo polykatalavei. H ousia einai oti yparxoun 3 kosmoi: real world, matrix world kai o endiamesos, o opoios elegxetai apo ton Merovingian kai ton roufiano tou ton Trainman.
Ston proto katoikoun oi anthropoi kai oi mhxanes. O 2os einai fantastikos pou proypothetei kapoion "linked" apo ton real world, eno ston teleytaio katoikoun ta programmata (ola ayta apoteloun prosopikh mou ektimhsh).
O Neo katafere na pagideytei ston endiameso kosmo, mallon prospathontas (isos den prospathise, apla etyxe) na eisxorhsei sto matrix xoris to aparaithto link. Sto ergo leei oti oi leitourgies tou einai opos kapoiou pou einai mesa sto matrix, mono pou den einai syndedemenos.
2.
H Oracle leei ston Neo oti eno o Architect eksisorropei thn eksisosh, ekeinh thn "apo-isorropei". Epishs leei oti prepei kai ekeinh na parei thn apofash ths, opos kai o Neo. H apofash ths einai telika na paradothei ston Smith kai ekeinos thn katalamvanei.
Sth maxh Smith-Neo, o protos vlepei mesa apo ta matia ths Oracle thn "katalhksh" ths maxhs. Einai se eisagogika, giati de mporei na dei the very end of it, kathos eksartatai apo thn epilogh tou Neo (thymitheite prohgoumena logia ths Oracle peri epiloghs).
Ekei kollane kai oi "akatalavistikes" atakes tou Smith sto sygkekrimeno shmeio: "..we already know that I'm the one that beats you... Wait. I've seen this. You were laying right there, like that, I... stand here, right here, I'm supposed to say something. I say... Everything that has a beginning has an end, Neo."
Logia ths Oracle, pou ypenthymizoun ston Neo ti prepei na kanei. Na "apo-isorrophsei" thn eksisosh. Etsi paradidetai kai o Neo ston Smith kai akolouthei h alysidoth antidrash pou katastrefei thn isorropia kalou-kakou kai mazi kai ton idio ton Smith (alla kai ton Neo).
Life begins at 45°.
Όσον αφορά τον ενδιάμεσο κόσμο (Trainman, κ.λ.π.), μάλλον απλά είναι ένα bus μεταξύ του συστήματος του Matrix και του υπόλοιπου υπολογιστικού συστήματος των μηχανών.
No trees were killed to send this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
E tespa kati tetoio. Syndeei tous 2 kosmous kai einai h diadromh pou PREPEI na akolouthiseis prokeimenou na metafertheis apo ton ena ston allon. Voliko
Life begins at 45°.
Originally Posted by Carcass_
Ta pairnw apo thn arxh: To 3o meros htan to kalytero apo ola. Yphrxe mia issoropia anamesa se afhghsh kai drash an kai perimena perissoteres ekshghseis. Antithetws to 2 pou les oti sou arese (imo to xeirotero) htan ontws phxtra sthn drash, xwris kati ousiwdes pera ton Keymaker kai ton mafiozo Gallo pou einai kai ena alyto mysthrio ths tainias.
Twra, logika h Zyon kai h polh twn Mhxanwn einai o pragmatikos kosmos. Otan htan ekei o Neo den htan plugged in. An thymasai h Oracle tou eixe pei pws tha synanthsei thn phgh (source). Paei loipon sto source pou vrisketai sto Machine city kai ton stelnei sto Matrix gia na vrei ton Smith. Isws vevaia o pragmatikos kosmos na einai allos, alla amfivallw. Mia safhs apanthsh tha vrisketai kapou mesa sta erga, tha ta ksanadw.
Stis parathrhseis.
a)den to parathrhsa ayto, an thes gine pio safhs.
b)Ta exeis mperdepsei ligo. H Zyon den yparxei sto prwto meros. Ennow oti kseroume thn yparksh ths alla den thn vlepoume. Ta 2 xapia htan kathara symvolika sto 1o meros. Apla tou edwsan epilogh an tha tous akolouthisei sto Matrix, h an synexisei thn zwh tou ksexnwntas ta ola. Sto 3, pou tou prosferetai xapi?
To RotK tha einai apogoiteysh ki ayto. Hdh eidame sto trailer ton Aragorn na pairnei to spathi ths Gondor (dld na ginetai vasilias) enw sto vivlio ginetai sto telos. Genika ton Aragorn ton exoun gamisei, katharos Amerikanos "hrwas" se tainia Hollywood.