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    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/ ... 18-5662235

    Έχετε διαβάσει κάτι τέτοιο; Μου φαίνεται ενδιαφέρον ως concept αυτό το "αν δεν είχε γίνει έτσι".
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    me endiaferei to thema kai parigila amesws to Third Reich Victorious.
    exw dei stadar tainies sxetikes me to ti tha ginotan an h germania kerdize to 2o pagkosmio.

    alithia eseis ti pistevete? o kosmos tha htan kalyteros an eixe kerdisei o hitler , ta idia skata me shmera h akoma xeirotera? Den milaw mono apo politikhs apopshs, alla kai allous tomeis opws h texnologia.

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    Χμου, πλιζ μην το γυρίσετε σε πολιτική συζήτηση όμως. Ό,τι ξέρετε για το είδος πείτε.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Painless
    Χμου, πλιζ μην το γυρίσετε σε πολιτική συζήτηση όμως. Ό,τι ξέρετε για το είδος πείτε.

    Auto skeutomoun twra.
    Ravel: There is no room for '2' in the world of 1's and 0's, no place for 'mayhap' in a house of trues and falses, and no 'green with envy' in a black and white world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Painless
    Έχετε διαβάσει κάτι τέτοιο; Μου φαίνεται ενδιαφέρον ως concept αυτό το "αν δεν είχε γίνει έτσι".
    Emena to concept moy fainetai tsarlatanismos me thn plhrh ennoia ths lekshs.
    You know you're in for a good time when there's a polar bear - bleeding - on the label.

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    Γιατί; Είναι ένα διαφορετικό σενάριο.
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    Ypopsiazomai oti gia na exei kapoia synoxh to biblio, tha prepei o syggrafeas na exei prospathhsei na dhmioyrghsei mia fysikh synexeia "alternative" istorias apo to shmeio apo to opoio epilegei na thn ksanagrapsei. Kai ekei arxizoyn ta problhmata.

    Tha exeis akoysei to "e, ki an h giagia moy eixe patinia...." Kapws etsi.
    You know you're in for a good time when there's a polar bear - bleeding - on the label.

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    Ναι, αλλά δε βρίσκω το πρόβλημα σε αυτό, πόσο μάλλον τη δικαιολόγηση της λέξης "τσαρλατανισμός". Τσαρλατανισμός θα ήταν αν ισχυριζόταν ότι αυτή είναι η αλήθεια.
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    Tsarlatanismos einai otan topotheteisai se zhthmata poy den mporoyn na apodeixthoyn swsta h' lathos. H paroysiash enallaktikhs istorias (opws epishs h yparksh toy theoy, metaksy allwn) einai mia tetoia topothethsh.

    Profanws o syggrafeas ennoei na pei oti "tha mporoyse na einai alhtheia" alliws to ergo einai apla opws kathe allo fiction novel - kathe fiction ergo dhmioyrgei mia "enallaktikh istoria", oytws h' allws. O titlos "alternate" history, an den einai entelws trivial, anaferetai se enallaktika realisations ths istorias basismena se proyparxonta gegonota.
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    Yup, ήταν υποκατηγορία του "sci-fi" άλλωστε.
    Ως προς τον όρο, το εξέλαβα με τη mainstream σημασία του, δλδ απατεωνιά, οπότε στην προκειμένη περίπτωση διαστρέβλωση της αλήθειας.
    Επιφυλάσσομαι, μη έχοντας διαβάσει κάτι τέτοιο, αλλά πιστεύω πως ένα βιβλίο αυτού του είδους, θα μπορούσε να αποτελέσει ερέθισμα για διάλογο.
    Πανακοιτάξω όταν κατέβω κέντρο και επανερχόμαστε :>
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    Xmmm.. Akougetai kati san parallhlo sumpan. Pou allazei ta xwroxronika dedomena kai olh thn roh kanotnas mia eikonikh pragmatikothta (gia auton pou thn blepei, ton parathrhth), alla pragmatikh gia olous tous allous. P.x. auto pou eixe sumbei sthn tainia "Back To The Future II".
    Ravel: There is no room for '2' in the world of 1's and 0's, no place for 'mayhap' in a house of trues and falses, and no 'green with envy' in a black and white world.

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    TA COUNTERFACTUALS DEN EINAI TSARLATANIZMOS, ALLA TEXNIKI POY XRISIMOPOIEITAI STIS ISTORIKIES/POLITIKIES EPISTIMES GIA SYGKEKRIMENOYS SKOPOYS. TAXW XRISIMOPOIISEI KI EGW OTAN SE ENA QUIZ EIXA GRAfSEI OTI AN O NAPOLEON DEN EIXE MIKRO POYLI ISWS NA MIN EKAMNE AfTA POY EKAMNE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeamflesch
    TA COUNTERFACTUALS DEN EINAI TSARLATANIZMOS, ALLA TEXNIKI POY XRISIMOPOIEITAI STIS ISTORIKIES/POLITIKIES EPISTIMES GIA SYGKEKRIMENOYS SKOPOYS. TAXW XRISIMOPOIISEI KI EGW OTAN SE ENA QUIZ EIXA GRAfSEI OTI AN O NAPOLEON DEN EIXE MIKRO POYLI ISWS NA MIN EKAMNE AfTA POY EKAMNE.
    Isws tote mporeis na apanthseis kai to age-old erwthma: "An h giagia moy eixe karoylia, tha htan lewforeio?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel
    Quote Originally Posted by eyeamflesch
    TA COUNTERFACTUALS DEN EINAI TSARLATANIZMOS, ALLA TEXNIKI POY XRISIMOPOIEITAI STIS ISTORIKIES/POLITIKIES EPISTIMES GIA SYGKEKRIMENOYS SKOPOYS. TAXW XRISIMOPOIISEI KI EGW OTAN SE ENA QUIZ EIXA GRAfSEI OTI AN O NAPOLEON DEN EIXE MIKRO POYLI ISWS NA MIN EKAMNE AfTA POY EKAMNE.
    Isws tote mporeis na apanthseis kai to age-old erwthma: "An h giagia moy eixe karoylia, tha htan lewforeio?"


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