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    Angry Greeks Deny Alexander the Great Was Bisexual

    By Karolos Grohmann


    ATHENS (Reuters) - A group of Greek lawyers are threatening to sue Warner Bros. film studios and Oliver Stone, director of the widely anticipated film "Alexander," for suggesting Alexander the Great was bisexual.

    The lawyers have already sent an extrajudicial note to the studio and director demanding they include a reference in the title credits saying his movie is a fictional tale and not based on official documents of the life of the Macedonian ruler.

    "We are not saying that we are against gays but we are saying that the production company should make it clear to the audience that this film is pure fiction and not a true depiction of the life of Alexander," Yannis Varnakos, who spearheads the campaign by 25 lawyers, told Reuters on Friday.

    Stone was quoted on the MSNBC.com Web Site as telling the upcoming edition of Playboy magazine that the film's depiction of Alexander could offend some. "We go into his bisexuality. It may offend some people, but sexuality in those days was a different thing," he was quoted as saying.

    While the film starring Colin Farrell and Angelina Jolie will be released on Nov. 24, Varnakos said he has already gathered enough information regarding the content of the movie to suggest there are "inappropriate references."

    "We have not seen the film but from the information we have already there are references to his alleged homosexuality, a fact that is in no historical document or archive on Alexander," he said. "Either they make it clear that this is a work of fiction or we will take the case further."

    This is not the first time Greeks have been angered by suggestions Alexander was homosexual and had affairs with young men.

    Two years ago hundreds of northern Greeks from the province of Macedonia, where he was born, stormed an archeological symposium after one speaker presented a paper on the homosexuality of Alexander. Police were called in to evacuate the participants.

    One of the greatest military leaders of all time, Alexander, who was never defeated in battle, conquered about 90 percent of the then-known world before his mysterious death at the age of 32, building an empire that stretched from the Mediterranean to Afghanistan.

    Varnakos said as Stone has the right to freely express himself, the audience should have the right to know. "We cannot come out and say that (former U.S.) President John F. Kennedy was a shooting guard for the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team and so Warner cannot come out and say Alexander was gay," Varnakos said.

    ^^ Αυτό κι αν είναι επιχείρημα

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    Να πάνε στα δικαστήρια να πέσει το γέλιο του αιώνα με τα επιχειρήματα...
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    Χμμμ, θα κάνω μύνηση στον Mel Gibson, γιατί δείχνει τον Χριστό να σταυρώνεται ενώ δεν υπάρχουν ιστορικά στοιχεία που να το αποδεικνύουν. Παραλογισμός rulz.

    Είναι ταινία, άρα καλλιτεχνικό έργο, οπότε αν θέλουν ας δείξουν πως ο Αλέξανδρος ήταν αμερικάνος, δικαίωμα τους.
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    ...kai ta arxidia mas kouniounte...
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    1. Mathematics is the language of nature
    2. Everything around is can be represented and understood by numbers
    3. If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge

    Evidence:

    1. The cycling of disease epidemics
    2. The wax and wan of caribou populations
    3. Sunspot cycles
    4. The rise and fall of the Nile River

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    To shoe
    Ravel: There is no room for '2' in the world of 1's and 0's, no place for 'mayhap' in a house of trues and falses, and no 'green with envy' in a black and white world.

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    Re h tainia afhnei tetoia iponoumena?
    MA TO MATI TSI THANTERAS!



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    Μπα, μάλλον χύμα θα το δείχνει...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deggial
    Χμμμ, θα κάνω μύνηση στον Mel Gibson, γιατί δείχνει τον Χριστό να σταυρώνεται ενώ δεν υπάρχουν ιστορικά στοιχεία που να το αποδεικνύουν.
    Σου λέει ο κ. Βαρνάκος ότι δεν υπάρχει ούτε καν αναφορά στις σεξουαλικές προτιμήσεις του Αλεξάνδρου. Για τη σταύρωση του Χριστού υπάρχει η Βίβλος. Στοιχειά ιστορικά που αποδεικνύουν ομοφυλοφιλία (όπως τα εννοείς εσύ) δεν μπορεί ούτως ή άλλως να επιβιώνουν. Για συγγράματα σύγχρονών τους ή κάτι παρεμφερές μιλά ο κυρ-Βαρνάκος.

    Εντιτ: Και είναι πέραν του προφανώς ότι όσο λανσάρουν το έργο ως "ιστορικό", τρελές αυθαιρεσίες το μειώνουν.

    Και, btw, στα αρχίδια μου για το τι έκανε ο Αλέξανδρος ή αν ήταν αμφιφιλόφυλος ή Εσκιμώος. Οι παρατηρήσεις μου μην ερμηνευτούν ως συμφωνία με τον Βαρνάκο που χρειάζεται να κοιτάξει λίγο τη δική του σεξουαλική ζωή πριν αποφασίσει να υπερασπιστεί των άλλων.

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    An einai na miniontai tainies pou exoun istorikes anakrivies, tote tha katsei sto idolio to 99.9% oson skinothetisan tetoia erga

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    Quote Originally Posted by katwrimos
    An einai na miniontai tainies pou exoun istorikes anakrivies, tote tha katsei sto idolio to 99.9% oson skinothetisan tetoia erga

    Istorikes anakrivies se tainies sucks pantos. Idios otan einai megales, tote den xriazetai minisi, toufekismos xriazetai
    Υπάρχουν και εξαιρέσεις, ακόμη κι από "εμπορικές" ταινίες, όπου ιστορικώς είναι σχετικώς ακριβείς (π.χ. Enemy At The Gates).
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    Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.
    J. M. Keynes.

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    έλεος πια με αυτό το φόβο μας... κυρίως, βέβαια, φταίνε οι ανακριβείς πληροφορίες που λαμβάνουμε από το σχολειο. όταν επι χρόνια βομβαρδίζεσαι με το πόσο γαμάτος ήταν ο αλέξανδρος και οι έλληνες και πώς εκπολίτισε τους βαρβάρους, μετά δεν είναι εύκολο να δεχθείς την ιστορική αλήθεια. πόσο μάλλον τις ανακρίβειες της κάθε ταινίας...
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