Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005)

[Phoebus]

[quote=aggelhs_rwxamhs][quote="When_Black_Roses_Bloom":ieih0hhr] aggellhs rwxamhs

To "30 year old concept" gurizetai twra gia prwth fora. Epishs to oti exoun graftei ta biblia prin apo 30 xronia, kai den guristika epeidh den uphrxe h katallhlh texnologia tote, den sou leei tipota e?[/quote]

First of all, ase tis moytzes, twra milas me to sovaro rwxamh, o karagkiozhs rwxamhs psofhse.
Loipon file, oi apopseis moy einai oi e3hs:
30 yr old concept egw DEN pisteyw oti einai. Apla voyth3e tis parapompes o Lucas kai eftia3e kati. Oso gia poiothta, sygkrine 1h me 2h trilogia, den yparxei sygkrish pisteyw. Gia mena (an kai 8a paw na to dw opws sxedon oloi mas), ena cash einai toy Lucas, targeted sta paidakia kai dh sta amerikanakia paidia (atakes toy styl "this is intense" apo to PtI soy lene kati?).[/quote:ieih0hhr]

Loipon, exoume ta ekshs shmeia:

i)sobaros/karagkiozhs rwxamhs
ii)30 yr old concept poy anakyklwnetai
iii)1h kai 2h trilogia
iv)koino pou stoxeyei o lucas

Kai apantw

i)sto sygkekrimeno post plhsiazeis ta karagkiozilikia
ii)30 yr old concept pou TWRA gyrizetai oloklhro - just in case you didn't notice
iii)den yparxei 2h trilogia - otan deis to ROTS tote mila
iv)to koino pou stoxeyei o lucas einai poly megalytero, opws panta. Gi'ayto allwste douleyei toso kala to franchise tou SW.


Parte kai to prwto teaser
[url="http://portfolio.iu.edu/abachniv/sw_ep3_trailer.mov"]http://portfolio.iu.edu/abachniv/sw_ep3_trailer.mov[/url]

[Silverwing]

Τι να κάνουμε, υπάρχουν κι ομοφυλόφιλοι.

Δεν χαίρεσαι που είσαι ένας από αυτούς????

[FIXXXER]

Osoi apotheonoun ta Star Wars (me included) einai isos ligo kollimenoi. Alla autoi pou ta krazoun einai ilithioi.

[aggelhs_rwxamhs]

[quote=Phoebus][quote=aggelhs_rwxamhs][quote="When_Black_Roses_Bloom":2fz3ugk2] aggellhs rwxamhs

To "30 year old concept" gurizetai twra gia prwth fora. Epishs to oti exoun graftei ta biblia prin apo 30 xronia, kai den guristika epeidh den uphrxe h katallhlh texnologia tote, den sou leei tipota e?[/quote]

First of all, ase tis moytzes, twra milas me to sovaro rwxamh, o karagkiozhs rwxamhs psofhse.
Loipon file, oi apopseis moy einai oi e3hs:
30 yr old concept egw DEN pisteyw oti einai. Apla voyth3e tis parapompes o Lucas kai eftia3e kati. Oso gia poiothta, sygkrine 1h me 2h trilogia, den yparxei sygkrish pisteyw. Gia mena (an kai 8a paw na to dw opws sxedon oloi mas), ena cash einai toy Lucas, targeted sta paidakia kai dh sta amerikanakia paidia (atakes toy styl "this is intense" apo to PtI soy lene kati?).[/quote]

Loipon, exoume ta ekshs shmeia:

i)sobaros/karagkiozhs rwxamhs
ii)30 yr old concept poy anakyklwnetai
iii)1h kai 2h trilogia
iv)koino pou stoxeyei o lucas

Kai apantw

i)sto sygkekrimeno post plhsiazeis ta karagkiozilikia
ii)30 yr old concept pou TWRA gyrizetai oloklhro - just in case you didn't notice
iii)den yparxei 2h trilogia - otan deis to ROTS tote mila
iv)to koino pou stoxeyei o lucas einai poly megalytero, opws panta. Gi'ayto allwste douleyei toso kala to franchise tou SW.


Parte kai to prwto teaser
[url="http://portfolio.iu.edu/abachniv/sw_ep3_trailer.mov"]http://portfolio.iu.edu/abachniv/sw_ep3_trailer.mov[/url][/quote:2fz3ugk2]
i) Ayto einai ypokeimeniko.
ii) Dhladh to 83 ta eixe sto myalo toy o lucas?
iii) 1h trilogia: kai ta 3 gamata.
2h trilogia ta 2 apo ta 3 deigmata einai MOYFES. Den einai logiko na ypo8esw oti kai to 3o 8a einai? (poy akoma kai an den einai, hdh ta 2/3 ths 2hs trilogias einai gtp)
iv) To ep1 htan GIA PAIDAKIA. Dhladh eleos, an arneisai ayto tote den exoyme ena koino shmeio anaforas na kanoyme dialogo. Giati htan gia paidakia?
a) Prwtagwnisths pitsirikas (etsi na taytistei to amerikanaki)
b) Droid (to fwtospa8o den afhnei gore otan kovei melh apo droids ara w00t, lysame to provlhma ths vias
c) Xrwmatakia
d) h8opoiia sta ep1&2. Den 3erw , emena moy 8ymise skets stos dhmotiko.

Gia na epanel8w pali sta peri ocncept, egw pisteyw oti o Lucas apla vrhke references apo thn 1h trilogia (px clone wars, na poy ma8ame poioi einai oi klwnoi kai ti manoyra egine).
Gia mena h 2h trilogia den einai apla ena cash-in gia thn pio cool parata3h toy ay8entikoy star wars

[Deggial]

i) Ayto einai ypokeimeniko.

Όχι, είναι γεγονός.

ii) Dhladh to 83 ta eixe sto myalo toy o lucas?

Ναι. Υπήρχε ήδη ολόκληρη μυθολογία για τα γεγονότα που προηγήθηκαν της επανάστασης κατά της αυτοκρατορίας του Darth Sidius, καθώς και για τα γεγονότα που ακολουθούν. Star Wars δεν είναι μόνο οι ταινίες, είναι και τα βιβλία και παιχνίδια, το λεγόμενο Expanded Universe.

a) Prwtagwnisths pitsirikas (etsi na taytistei to amerikanaki)

Συμφωνώ πως η πρώτη ταινία είναι αρκετά παιδική, αλλά αυτό δεν οφείλεται στην ηλικία του Anakin Skywalker, που δε γίνεται να ήταν και διαφορετική. Οφείλεται στον ηλίθιο τρόπο που γυρίστηκαν μερικές σκηνές. Αν δεις, π.χ. τα extended στο pod racing, είναι λες και βλέπεις αγώνα baseball.

[Deggial]

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20020901

[pitchfork]

Osoi apotheonoun ta Star Wars (me included) einai isos ligo kollimenoi. Alla autoi pou ta krazoun einai ilithioi.

ΜΑ ΑΚΡΙΒΩΣ ΕΤΣΙ ΛΕΜΕ

[Phoebus]

Aggelh, diabazeis /. etsi?

To 83 pou les loipon, NAI O LUCAS TA EIXE OLA STO MYALO TOU. Prin th dhmiourgia tou A New Hope o Lucas eixe tosh megalh idea gia ton eayto tou pou hthele na kanei 9 tainies. Oi 3 klassikes, 3 prequels kai 3 sequels -bebaia bghke to Dark Empire(http://www.starwars.com/eu/feature/20000405/) kai allakse entelws h roh twn sequels pou eixe skeftei o Lucas. Gi'ayto allwste prin kapoia xronia, thn periodo tou ep1, o GL eixe dhlwsei oti den tha kanei ta sequels kai to ep3 tha einai h teleytaia SW tainia -an kai yparxoun merika rumors. Tespa.

To megalo lathos sou einai oti exeis balei th prwth trilogia se pedestal. Giati? Den katalabainw? Einai to idio concept pou blepeis kai stis nees tainies me ta IDIA lathh. Einai dhmiourgia GL. Koita sto ANH. Prwtagwnisths pitsirikas, ta lightsabers den dhmiougoun gore outws 'h allws giati kaythriazoun to kopsimo, XRWMATAKIA (blepe kai ep2 ESP - bespin city), HTHOPOIIA? WHAT? WHAT?!?!? POIA HTHOPOIIA?! O HARRISON FORD KOROIDEYEI AKOMA TON EAYTO TOU OTAN BLEPEI SW! Oi dialogoi einai GTP - athlies atakes. Ti skets sto dhmotiko kai malakies mou les loipon.

To MONO pou gamaei ta panta sto SW einai to concept. Kai to concept yparxei apo poly palia, akoma kai gia ta ep7,8 kai 9. Ama psakseis tha breis ta rough scripts tou GL.

To ep1 den htan TOSO kako, ksekollate, kai to ep2 htan PARA POLY KALO.

[When Black Roses Bloom]

To Episode 1 eixe ta Droids pou katebenan kata xiliades kai to Episode 2 tous clones pou gamousan to sumpan kai htan gkayla. Kai genika, otan blepeis siga siga na kollane ta kommatia tou puzzle, einai gamaoua. Blepeis pragmata pou ta ksereis apo thn prwth trilogia kai epitelous ekshgountai!!!!

[Phoebus]

Nai px twra tha doume poios dhmiourghse ton clone army gia thn republic, giati o yoda kai mace windu den katalabainoun oti o palpatine einai o emperor ktl... (an kai ayto isws to kseroume )

Sto perasma ep1 me ep2 ta droids anabathmizontai para poly kai ekei pou blepeis sto ep1 ta apla droids pou moiazoune me papies exeis sto ep2 ta advanced war droids ta opoia gamane tous jedi...

To teaseraki pws sas fanhke? O Emperor me lightsaber

[Deggial]

To teaseraki pws sas fanhke? O Emperor me lightsaber

adsfafdafsaf, πορώθηκα άσχημα. "Lord Vader?", "Yes, master". Έπος.

[Phoebus]

Kabla kabla, des kai to VG trailer...

[aggelhs_rwxamhs]

Aggelh, diabazeis /. etsi?

To 83 pou les loipon, NAI O LUCAS TA EIXE OLA STO MYALO TOU. Prin th dhmiourgia tou A New Hope o Lucas eixe tosh megalh idea gia ton eayto tou pou hthele na kanei 9 tainies. Oi 3 klassikes, 3 prequels kai 3 sequels -bebaia bghke to Dark Empire(http://www.starwars.com/eu/feature/20000405/) kai allakse entelws h roh twn sequels pou eixe skeftei o Lucas. Gi'ayto allwste prin kapoia xronia, thn periodo tou ep1, o GL eixe dhlwsei oti den tha kanei ta sequels kai to ep3 tha einai h teleytaia SW tainia -an kai yparxoun merika rumors. Tespa.

To megalo lathos sou einai oti exeis balei th prwth trilogia se pedestal. Giati? Den katalabainw? Einai to idio concept pou blepeis kai stis nees tainies me ta IDIA lathh. Einai dhmiourgia GL. Koita sto ANH. Prwtagwnisths pitsirikas, ta lightsabers den dhmiougoun gore outws 'h allws giati kaythriazoun to kopsimo, XRWMATAKIA (blepe kai ep2 ESP - bespin city), HTHOPOIIA? WHAT? WHAT?!?!? POIA HTHOPOIIA?! O HARRISON FORD KOROIDEYEI AKOMA TON EAYTO TOU OTAN BLEPEI SW! Oi dialogoi einai GTP - athlies atakes. Ti skets sto dhmotiko kai malakies mou les loipon.

To MONO pou gamaei ta panta sto SW einai to concept. Kai to concept yparxei apo poly palia, akoma kai gia ta ep7,8 kai 9. Ama psakseis tha breis ta rough scripts tou GL.

To ep1 den htan TOSO kako, ksekollate, kai to ep2 htan PARA POLY KALO.

Loipon me to 1o peri 83, diafwnw, den yparxei periptwsh na me peiseis h na se peisw opote to afhnw (kai na mhn 3exname oti polles fores h istoria grafete ek twn ysterwn). Pame sta alla merh toy post soy se mia teleytaia prospa8eia na ginei enas dialogos.

Loipon pedestal loipon. 8a kanw mia ekklhsh sto synais8hma (kati ka8ara ypokeimeniko). E re file, opws kai na to kanoyme, EMENA (dhladh proswpika) h 2h trilogia den moy leei kati se sxesh me thn 1h. Otan px vghke se DVD h 1h phga, eskasa ta 30 lirakia moy kai thn exw liwsei (kai nai exei ellatwmata, kai nai einai paidikh). Gia ep1 kai ep2, den 3erw, to ep1 to eida merikes fores, to ep2 to noikiasa DVD kai 2h fora den to eida (ennoeitai oti to eixa dei sto cinema). Peri h8opoias, o Ford xalara gamaei opoiondhpote apo thn 1h trilogia, an den eixe talento den 8a ginotan kai toso megalos star (Oi alloi px giati e3afanisthkan?). Nai, kai h 1h trilogia exei paidika stoixeia (me apokoryfwma ta anekdihghta Ewoks ta opoia oloi 3eroyn oti o lucas ta xrhsimopoihse gia logoys merchandising anti gia wookie). Oso gia to ep4, einai aplo: H 1H TRILOGIA H8ELE NA PERASEI THN ATMOSFAIRA TWN CINEMA SERIALS TWN 40s, ara kapoia paidikothta ktl einai dikaiologhmenh. Allo omws o foros timhs se kati me to opoio megalwses kai allo h stygnh ekmetalleysh (Jar Jar??? "this is intense" ktl).
Oso gia slashdot, o idios 3ereis oti ekei geeky unconfirmed malakies grafoyn ws epi to pleiston. En katakleidi: to SW universe einai megalo franchise kai den mporoysan na to afhsoyn anekmetalleyto kai h 2h trilogia (an kai kalodoylemenh sxetika, Ill give you that poy leme kai sto agglia) IMHO tacked on einai.

Allo paradeigma tacked on trilogias? To matrix (kai mhn to anapty3oyme edw giati 8a ginei split to thread).

Ayta gia star wars pros to paron.

[FIXXXER]

To teaseraki pws sas fanhke? O Emperor me lightsaber

adsfafdafsaf, πορώθηκα άσχημα. "Lord Vader?", "Yes, master". Έπος.

Eida to trailer sto Village prin do AVP (to opoio itan kalo, oxi tipota to idiaitero, alla ligo) me ta basa kai otan akousa autin tin stixomuthia (haha) porothika milame. Poios perimenei ton Maio?

[aggelhs_rwxamhs]

To teaseraki pws sas fanhke? O Emperor me lightsaber

adsfafdafsaf, πορώθηκα άσχημα. "Lord Vader?", "Yes, master". Έπος.

Eida to trailer sto Village prin do AVP (to opoio itan kalo, oxi tipota to idiaitero, alla ligo) me ta basa kai otan akousa autin tin stixomuthia (haha) porothika milame. Poios perimenei ton Maio?

8a parei ki allo rantzo o loykas