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Ennoeitai pws an i tileorasi promotarei tous gay polla paidia mporei na ginoun gay. Ennoeitai pws i tileorasi den prepei na logokrinetai. Ennoeitai pws ama yparxi morfwsi me apotelezma na yparxei kritiki skeFsi to paidaki pou tha ginei gay tha ginei epeidis to goustarei kai oxi gia na einai "in".

Kala, den ennoeitai katholoy kai, basika, emena moy akoygetai gia megalh blakeia.

Esy dhladh yphrxe periptwsh ston kosmo na karfwseis enan antra epeidh htan "in"? Ti lete, re atoma?

Edit: Me thn idia logikh tha thewreis epishs "profanes" opws lene oi Evangelicals oti mporeis na diorthwseis toys omofylofiloys. Swsta?

Egw den yparxei periptwsi na karfwsw kapoion antra epeidi einai "in" giati otan megalwna kai eblepa Santa Barbara stin tileorasi sta 8 i sta 10 mou, poso iman, tote oi gay den itan tis modas. Simera einai.

Den katalaba to edit sou btw.

Cancer den pisteBw oti o katwrimos eksefrase fasistiki apopsi.

Cancer kai asimoulis, to problima mas einai i blakeia meros tis opoias apotelei kai o ethnikizmos.

aFto pou leei o Deggial peri morfwsis einai kairio pantws. Ennoeitai pws an i tileorasi promotarei tous gay polla paidia mporei na ginoun gay. Ennoeitai pws i tileorasi den prepei na logokrinetai. Ennoeitai pws ama yparxi morfwsi me apotelezma na yparxei kritiki skeFsi to paidaki pou tha ginei gay tha ginei epeidis to goustarei kai oxi gia na einai "in".

i morfosi einai panakeia diladi.

o ethnikismos ws politiki/politiki-related ideologia iparxei kai dikaioutai na iparxei, xarin tis isorropias.
syntagmatika den apagoreuetai na nai kaneis ethnikistis h o,ti allo 8elei, apagoreuontai prakseis stis opoies w8ountai oi ekastote opadoi tetoiwn akraiwn ideologiwn.

i tileorasi den vlepo na promotarei tous gay, apla tous dinei vima, opws dinei vima ston ka8ena na pei ti malakia tou. prepei na nai kaneis tragika amyalos gia na epireastoun oi sexoualikes tou protimiseis apo to ti provallei i tv.

Mou dinete tin entypwsi oti ypotimate ti dynami tis tileorasis. Sto prwto radiotileoptiko politiko debate ever metaksy Nixon kai Kennedy kerdise o deFteros epeidis itan pio goiteFtikos. Osoi eidan to debate itan yper toy Kennedy, osoi to akousan sto radio yper toy Nixon (antikatastiste to "osoi" me to "oi pio polloi" ama goustarete). Kai aFto itan 30-40 xronia prin pou i tileorasi arxize na katalabainei ti dynami tis. Simera tin kserei.

Edit: cancer, i protasi sou sta italics den exei ousia.

milises gia morfosi.
ego sou leo oti i morfosi kai i antiliptiki ikanotita einai 2 teleiws diaforetikes ennoies.

dunadan, kapoios ligotero kontof8almos user.

Pare ena paradeigma: eisai ellinas, megalwneis stin ellada, mathaineis tin istoria apo tin ellinikia pleBra. ama de morfwtheis parapanw (mathainontas apo alles pleBres gia tin idia istoria) de tha antiliftheis to oti tha pragmata den einai aparaitita etsi opws sta didaskoun. I morfwsi kai i antilipsi einai pleBres tou idiou nomizamtos. Mazi exoun tin isxy kai wfelimotita pou exoyn.

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Egw den yparxei periptwsi na karfwsw kapoion antra epeidi einai "in" giati otan megalwna kai eblepa Santa Barbara stin tileorasi sta 8 i sta 10 mou, poso iman, tote oi gay den itan tis modas. Simera einai.

Den katalaba to edit sou btw.

To edit moy leei oti an pisteveis oti einai dynato gia kapoion na ginei gay me thn propaganda sthn thleorash, den einai epishs logiko na nomizeis (opws nomizoyn diaforoi fundamentalistes xristianoi) oti mporeis kai na diorthwseis ton omofylofilo me kapoia antistoixh "therapia"?

Oso gia to allo poy les gia th dynamh ths thleorashs....En elleipsei posotikwn metrwn gia to poso ephreazei, kaneis exei to enstikto toy. Kai to diko moy einai oti arketoi (se merika themata) thn ypertimoyn.

Ama to edit sou leei aFto to pragma, tote ennoeitai oti symfwnw oti einai logiko na yparxoyn (kai pws yparxoyn) anthrwpoi pou nomizoun oti mporeis na diorthwseis ton omofylofilo me kapoia antistoixi therapia. Oi Evangelical ekpompes kai tilemarathwnioi exoun ekatommyria pistous (pun intended) akolouthous.

Ayto to kserw. Esy symfwneis? Ayto lew. An nomizeis oti h TV mporei na kanei kapoion gay, prepei na symfwneis oti h TV (h' kapoioy eidoys propaganda) mporei na ton kanei un-gay.

Symfwnw, an kai gia na ginei un-gay tha prepei na ginei raging evangelist kai gia na einai gay dyskolo na einai kai r.e. Omws, mporei na symbei pisteBw, asxeta ama to thewrw ygies i oxi.

Elleipsi posotikwn metrwn? aFto pou eipe i eni peri sxesis tileorasis kai koinou stin Ellada kai stin Ameriki de se dinei ena alfa metro?

Nai, den yparxei omws aysthros tropos na metrhseis an ws koinwnia ypotimame h' ypertimame th dynamh ths TV.

Sorry, alla to thewrw ilithia dilwsi aFto. De se lew esena ilithio, lew ti dilwsi sou, opote min arpaxteis kai katse na skeFteis (AN THES fysika, de sou epiballw tpt) giati mporei oxi aparaitita na einai, alla giati kapoios mporei na ti thewrisei ilithia.
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[Gabriel]

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Elleipsi posotikwn metrwn? aFto pou eipe i eni peri sxesis tileorasis kai koinou stin Ellada kai stin Ameriki de se dinei ena alfa metro?

Nai, den yparxei omws aysthros tropos na metrhseis an ws koinwnia ypotimame h' ypertimame th dynamh ths TV.

Sorry, alla to thewrw ilithia dilwsi aFto. De se lew esena ilithio, lew ti dilwsi sou, opote min arpaxteis kai katse na skeFteis (AN THES fysika, de sou epiballw tpt) giati mporei oxi aparaitita na einai, alla giati kapoios mporei na ti thewrisei ilithia.
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Me mperdepses. Lew apla, an den to egrapsa opws to ennooysa thn prwth fora, me aformh oti kapoy rwtas ton Cancer (nomizw htan o Cancer) an ypotimame to effect ths thleorashs, oti pws tha kathhsoyme na metrhsoyme an ypotimame h' ypertimame th dynamh ths, an den yparxei ksekatharos tropos na metrhsoyme thn epirroh ths sth symperifora twn anthrwpwn?

Edit: Pws mporoyme, dhladh, gia an ekfrasoyme apopsh, na paragontopoihsoyme kai na ksexwrisoyme th symbolh toso 'soft' paragontwn opws h oikogeneia, to filiko periballon, h TV, h koyltoyra, oi synhtheies kai ola ayta?

De lew oti DEN eipa hlithiothta (mhn arpaxteis), epanalambanw me perissotera logia ayto poy eipa.

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Elleipsi posotikwn metrwn? aFto pou eipe i eni peri sxesis tileorasis kai koinou stin Ellada kai stin Ameriki de se dinei ena alfa metro?

Nai, den yparxei omws aysthros tropos na metrhseis an ws koinwnia ypotimame h' ypertimame th dynamh ths TV.

Sorry, alla to thewrw ilithia dilwsi aFto. De se lew esena ilithio, lew ti dilwsi sou, opote min arpaxteis kai katse na skeFteis (AN THES fysika, de sou epiballw tpt) giati mporei oxi aparaitita na einai, alla giati kapoios mporei na ti thewrisei ilithia.

Me mperdepses. Lew apla, an den to egrapsa opws to ennooysa thn prwth fora, me aformh oti kapoy rwtas ton Cancer (nomizw htan o Cancer) an ypotimame to effect ths thleorashs, oti pws tha kathhsoyme na metrhsoyme an ypotimame h' ypertimame th dynamh ths, an den yparxei ksekatharos tropos na metrhsoyme thn epirroh ths sth symperifora twn anthrwpwn?

Edit: Pws mporoyme, dhladh, gia an ekfrasoyme apopsh, na paragontopoihsoyme kai na ksexwrisoyme th symbolh toso 'soft' paragontwn opws h oikogeneia, to filiko periballon, h TV, h koyltoyra, oi synhtheies kai ola ayta?

De lew oti DEN eipa hlithiothta (mhn arpaxteis), epanalambanw me perissotera logia ayto poy eipa. [/quotess2rf72]

Yparxei ateleiwti bibliografia gia tin epirroi tis tileorasis ston anthrwpo/koinwnia kai polla diaforetika "porizmata" opote ama sendiaferei to thema tsekare oso pio polla biblia mporoun na pesoun sta xeria sou.

Episis skeFsou to eksis: ama i tileorasi edeixne synexeia diaforetikous tragoudistes apaFtous pou deixnei synexeia i pleiopsifia tou (estw "in") kozmou se poianou kallitexni tin pista tha petouse louloudia?

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