The Village (2004) - Σποιλεροσυζήτηση
Poli kalo senario.Aprosmeno telos-anatropi.Apsogi mousiki ependysh (gia Oscar xalara).Den einai mia typiki tainia tromou,den exei skopo na se kanei na tromakseis.To saspens leitourgei se psyxologiko epipedo.H tha to latrepseis,h tha se afhsei toylaxiston adiaforo. P.S : H skhnh tou maxairwmatos-epos.
Last edited by Kaserinos; 23-10-2011 at 13:29.
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Loipon, to ergo htan apsogo. Ermhneies opws eprepe (apokalypsh gia mena o Phoenix, Brody - morfh), monimws dysaresth atmosfaira kai diathesi, TELEIA skhnothesia kai wraia hxhtika effe. To telos einai koukou kanonika.
kai fysika einai anatreptiko, kai dinei mia nea ypostash sthn tainia. Einai APISTEYTA ayta pou mporeis na skefteis me to telos, se syndyasmo me ta osa synevhsan prin. Apokleismos apo thn koinwnia, anhmporoi na antidrasoun se provlhmata ygeias (kai psyxologika - vlepe ton trello Brody) ta paidia ti tous ftaine klp .. . Pisteyw oti o Shamalyan (opws skata grafetai) ekane teleio sxolio gia polla. G
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL OR UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE. YOU'RE THE SAME DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER AS EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE THE ALL-SINGING, ALL-DANCING CRAP OF THE WORLD.
HIPPIE METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL
ksexasa na anaferw thn kopelia pou ekame thn tyflh, kai htan para poly kalh. Tha paiksei kai thn Grace tou "Dogville" sto "Manderley" tou Von Trier.
A kai "parafwnia" to love story metaksi twn gnwstwn.. to ksezoumisan me thinks.
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL OR UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE. YOU'RE THE SAME DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER AS EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE THE ALL-SINGING, ALL-DANCING CRAP OF THE WORLD.
HIPPIE METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL
To eida kai mou arese para poly.
Foverh atmosfaira.
Oso gia to cast.... William Hurt kai Sig(opos grafetai tes pa)gurney Weaver reeee.
Sto dialeimma, legame me ton filo mou: "den yparxoun oi Akatanomastoi (Dalares), einai evrhma gia na mhn vgoun apo th koilada".
Alla ntax, den mporo na po oti ta eixa katalavei ola.
Symfono 100% me Buddy, oti o Shyamalan perase ypogeios 123451345326 mynhmata peri koinonias klp. To mono pou me xalase einai pali oi entelos diakritoi xarakthres (o Phoenix kai h kopela apolyta kaloi...)
My words but a whisper - your deafness a shout
Tha paw na to dw shmera! Tha sas pw aurio entypwseis. Alloi lene oti tha nai kalo, ejwteriko toulaxiston skizei tameia. Alloi lene oti sto telos tha nai patata.
Tha sas pw...!
Thn eida.
Pame gia ena spoiller...
Htan kalh tha elega, SAN tainia. Alla to sugkekrimeno eidos einai ligo duskolo na to krineis etsi.
Mou thn edwse se polla shmeia oi apopseis tou kuriou skhnotheta.
Katarxhn den einai koinwniko to fainomeno. Sigoura mou aresan kapoies skhnes opws auth sthn arxh pou oi 2 tupisses thavoun to kokkino louloudi ( tuflh krish kai aporripsh apo mia koinwnia ).
Apo ekei kai pera, enw vlepoume mia koinwnia h opoia exei ta themelia ths ston fovo, par'ola ayta einai ola kala kai ola omorfa, symperiferontai entaksei kia oi diaproswpikes tous sxeseis einai aristes - opws se mia xristianikh koinwnia. Par;ola auta, autos pou tha ferei to provlhma se auth thn koinothta tha einai o pneumatika kathisterhmenos. Aytos pou prwtos tha ferei to kokkino xrwma-pathos-via sto xwrio. Oi upoloipoi pou einai pneumatika ugieis den dhmiourghsan ena tetoio provlhma. Kai telika ola pane na "spasoun" otan vlepoun oti gia ton logo pou efugan kai dhmiourghsan auto pou dhmiourghsan anatrepetai apo kapoion, o opoios einai pneumatika mh ygeihs. Kath;olh thn diarkeia ths tainias h symperifora twn katoikwn ( pou kata ta alla, htan normal-pragma teleiws antirealistiko, kathws einai mia koinwnia vasismenh ston fovo, oxi mia eleutherh koinwnia - kai eutixismenoi ) synexizei na einai ayth pou einai kai to mono telika synaisthima pou pernaei einai h thlipsh. Den uparxei kritikh gia to ti ginetai, se koinwniko plaisio alla se sunaisthimatiko ( px " se lupamai patera ", htan auto pou eipe h tuflh kopelitsa otan anakalupse thn allithia). Akomh, to katestws pou eixan dhmiourghsei oi presvyteroi, telika enas apo autous anoigei ta matia se kapoion allon ths koinothtas, anoigontas thn apothikh. sigoura o sumvolismos tou tuflou pou mpenei mesa sthn porta einai kalos, alla pali san apopsh me kanei na diafwnw. Ypotithetai vevaia oti ginetai logo typsewn, logo agaphs apo ton patera pros thn korh, logo tou egklhmatos pou egine alla pws mporei se mia koinwnia na synuparxoun o fovos kai h agaph telika? Kai giati prepei na einai o sunaisthimatikos desmos pou tha deiksei ton dromo pros tous tuflous ? Giati h korh tou presvyterou kai oxi kapoios allos den eide telika thn alitheia ?
Mou arese o "prwtagwnisths " , opou exei kapoies amfivolies gia thn koinwnia sthn opoia zei kai thelei na diasxisei to dasos. Ws ekei kala. Alla den mou aresan oi apopseis tou styl " eimai agnos , den exw mustika opote den tha me peiraksoun ". Protestantes uber alles. Den exei koinonikous h logikous provlhmatismous gia to pou zei, exei sunaisthimatikous ( opws otan eipe sthn kopela oti " fovamai kuriws mhn patheis esy tpt " ).
Kai telika ola tha pane mprosta me thn agaph. Thn agnh agaph. Auth htan kai to conclusion. Lypamai, alla oxi.
Ta parapanw, to gegonos tou to sumvolizei o kathisterhmenos, to oti h koinothta einai mia xara ( ektos apo to background pou kruvoun kai exoun thapsei ) kai to gegonos oti afou eginan osa eginan h idia koinwnia tha synexisei na yparxei, xwris na krinei ton eauto ths alla deixnontas ton dromo gia tous kainourgious presvyterous meso enos sfalmatos tou systhmatos me vriskoun antitheto. Htan , gia mena, mia kathara protestantikh tainia.
Auto den shmainei oti den htan kalh tainia. Kai o tropos pou ta parousiaze htan kalos kai oi sumvolismoi tou klp klp. Protimousa vevaia na loipoun kapoies arges skhnes pou den eixan nohma ( opws otan gia polosth fora , gurizei h kopelitsa kai leei , enw etoimazei ta pragmata ths , " paw sthn polh na ferw farmaka " ). Epishs tha protimousa na htan koinonikou thematos kai oxi synaisthimatismou. Yphrxan tainies me idio thema pou omws gia mena htan polu kaluteres, h mallon sumfwnousa perissotero.
Ayta, gia arxh.
Assumptions:
1. Mathematics is the language of nature
2. Everything around is can be represented and understood by numbers
3. If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge
Evidence:
1. The cycling of disease epidemics
2. The wax and wan of caribou populations
3. Sunspot cycles
4. The rise and fall of the Nile River
Xm katarxin gia ton prwtagwnisth:
Oi apopseis tou htan apolyta logikes. Megalose se ena apisteyta hremo kai hsyxo meros, kai eixe mia zwh dixws idiaiteres sygkiniseis. Mesa se olh ayth thn aplothta theorise fysiologiko, na mhn tou kanoun tipota ta plasmata, efoson den eprokeito kai aytos na ta peiraksei. Den to vriskw periergo dld. Apla htan wraio pou mono h periergia tou htan h arxh gia na ginoun ola. Mia mikrh kinhsh mesa sto dasos.
Epishs den mporeis na krineis to xwrio pou zousan opws opoiadhpote allh koinwnia. Htan ena meros sto opoio zousan 25-30 xronia, kai hsan oloi gnwstoi - filoi pleon. Htan h prwth genia tou xwriou. Eixan polla koina metaksy tous, kai h fysh tou xwriou htan tetoia pou den proksenouse logo gia diafwnies, na diafwnisoun gia ti dld gia ta provata kai ta xwrafia? Htan perissoero san mia oikogeneia para san mia koinwnia. H "poinh" gia ton Brody pou maxairwse, htan aplws na ton kleisoun se ena dwmatio. H mana tou Phoenix DEN antedrase idiaitera giati profanws eixan oloi symfwnisei gia polla PRIN akoma metakomisoun sto xwrio.
Kai apo ekei ksekinaei to provlhma (pou den einai o pneumatika kathysterimenos) . To provlhma einai oti skeftikan MONO pws tha ksefygoun apo ton kosmo pou tous plhgwse kai den antexan na megalwsoun ekei ta paidia tous. Prospathisan na vroun ena paradeiso. Den skeftikan omws TOSA POLLA , mesa se ayta kai to ti tha ginei ama kapoios gennithei trellos kai kata synepeia aprovleptos se epikindino vathmo (opws apodeixthike). To provlhma diladi to dhmiourgisan MONO oi pneymatika ygieis pou les. Den ginetai na ftaiei enas trellos.
Epishs vriskw fysiologiko to na einai teleiws normal h nea genia - ta paidia tous. Kleistos koinwnikos perigyros, aplh zwh, kamia idiaiterh sygkinish, ekthesh se liga pragmata, makarioi oi ptwxoi tw pneymati klp. Tous megalosan me ena aplo sygkekrimeno tropo, kai sto sxoleio tous mathainan AKRIVWS oti ithelan. Ta paidia/neoi den eixan prosvash se vivliothikes/efhmerides klp. O megalyteros provlimatismos pou mporousan na anaptyksoun htan mia aplh periergeia. Gia ayto kai h tyflh ston patera tis to mono pou mporouse na tou pei htan "se lypamai". Kai peri "ola tha pane mprosta me thn agaph", nai ayth htan h apopsh tous kai o logos pou katefygan sto xwrio htan na ftiaksoun mia tetoia koinwnia. To sxolio tou skinotheti gia ayto to thema (nomizw) htan oti den ginetai na provlefthoun ola. Stin ousia oi goneis "amarthsan" gia na ikanoipoiisoun tous eaytous tous kai tis proswpikes tous egnoies MONO, nomizontas oti prosferoun sta paidia tous to kalytero. O Phoenix omws htan dystixismenos pou den mporouse na dei tis poleis pera apo to dasos.
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL OR UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE. YOU'RE THE SAME DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER AS EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE THE ALL-SINGING, ALL-DANCING CRAP OF THE WORLD.
HIPPIE METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL
Ayto pou exw na prosthesw einai i eleipsi toso tou thriskeytikou stoixeiou oso kai twn xrhmatwn ws meso syndiallaghs. An kai h istoria ektylisetai se mia aysthra puritanikh koinwnia (den tha tin elega xristianiki h estw protestantiki) den tous eida na trexoun se ekklhsies h na proseyxontai se kanena theo. Edw boreite na diorthwsete an den thimamai kala. Episis den ypirxe h anagi twn xrimatwn (h tifli ithele na plhrwsei me to xryso roloi), trwgane oloi mazi, koinokthmosynh ktl. Oi presbyteroi epomenws borei na ta thewrisan ws pigi parakmhs gia thn shmerini koinwnia kai thelisan na ta apokleisun apo tin dikia tous –idanikh- polh. Episis den nomizw oti htan allo ena love story- h agaph kinei ton kosmo. An kai exw tin entipwsi oti arketoi borei ws ekei na “doyn“ thn tainia.Mallon perisotero o fthonos (toy trelou) kai h periergeia tou prwtagwnisti kinhse ta nhmata. Kai efoson den yparxei h katallhlh kalliergeia, kyriarxei to synaisthima to opoio ekdhlwnetai malista eite me biaia ksespasmata eite me mia sxedon apatheia, afu den briskei pio fysiologikoys tropous na dioxeteytei. Telos h amartia twn presbyterwn kata th gnvmi mou htan oti prospathisan na to paixun “theoi”, na ftiaxoun to diko tous mikro paradeiso kai na zhsoun mesa se ayton. Ayto pou den ypologisan einai toso o peirasmos –oi poleis eksw apo to dasos- oso kai n anthrwpini fisi. Isws kai thn istoria poy epanalambanetai.
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den mpaino ston kopo na diavaso ta parapano posts.alloste me ton mpantilaki ta eipame idi,afou eidame mazi tin tainia.
loipon ego prosopika theoro oti i tainia einai SKATA.oxi epeidi einai kaki (einai ontos kaki) alla epeidi einai kanonika apati.lamvanontas ypopsin tin proyperesia tou sygkekrimenou skinotheti,ta trailers kai tis protropes "min apokalyptete to telos" piga me to skeptiko na do ena oreo thriler/tromou me orea ATMOSFERA,to klisarismeno pleon anatreptiko telos kai na fxaristitho tromazontas vre aderfe.ant'autou eida mia apisteuti malakia,i opoia den eixe ixnos atmosferas (ektos apo tous titlous stin arxi kai mia-dyo faseis ton 10 deuterolepton ekasti),eixe ATHLIO EKNEURISTIKO senario (kai kala psagmenes filosofikes anazitiseis TOU KOLOU KAI KLISARISMENES OSO DEN PAEI) kai itan VARETI kai provlepsimi mexri aidias.
osoi ti fxaristithikate mpravo sas.ego eniosa pragmatika eksapatimenos.exo fxaristithei apisteuta polles tainies,oi opoies theorountai skoupidia kata geniki omologia,epeidi iksera ti pao na do.sautin edo tsatistika.ante gamisou kyrie shyamalan.katse na vgaleis orea thriller sto styl tis 6is aisthisis kai ase tous koinonikous provlimatismous kata meros giati de sou vgainei.
filika.
o sympoulis sou
So you're climbing upwards through structures of metal and glass
osoi ti fxaristithikate mpravo sas.ego eniosa pragmatika eksapatimenos.exo fxaristithei apisteuta polles tainies,oi opoies theorountai skoupidia kata geniki omologia,epeidi iksera ti pao na do.sautin edo tsatistika.ante gamisou kyrie shyamalan.katse na vgaleis orea thriller sto styl tis 6is aisthisis kai ase tous koinonikous provlimatismous kata meros giati de sou vgainei.
filika.
o sympoulis sou
to kovo na sou aresei kai to epomeno maiden!!
My words but a whisper - your deafness a shout
an mou aresei to epomeno maiden tha to kopso monos mou
So you're climbing upwards through structures of metal and glass
Ayto akrivos pou les htan gia mena to kalytero sto ergo.
Dhladh ti tha htan kalytero?
H tyflh kopela na katatropone ta terata sto dasos?
Axaxa as do kalytera th kokkinoskoufitsa.
(entometaksy to mono shmeio pou me xalase htan h "maxh" me to teras sto dasos)
My words but a whisper - your deafness a shout
AUTO KATALAVES APO TO POST MOU?????
.....................................
asto.eidame kai oi 2 tin tainia.esy ti fxaristithikes.ego eniosa malakas pou edosa 8 euro.eisai se pleonektiki thesi etsi ki allios.
So you're climbing upwards through structures of metal and glass
se ayto kollaei (xoris na symfono me tous xarakthrismous "athlio klp) to:piga me to skeptiko na do ena oreo thriler/tromou me orea ATMOSFERA,to klisarismeno pleon anatreptiko telos kai na fxaristitho tromazontas vre aderfe.ant'autou eida mia apisteuti malakia,i opoia den eixe ixnos atmosferas (ektos apo tous titlous stin arxi kai mia-dyo faseis ton 10 deuterolepton ekasti),eixe ATHLIO EKNEURISTIKO senario (kai kala psagmenes filosofikes anazitiseis TOU KOLOU KAI KLISARISMENES OSO DEN PAEI) kai itan VARETI kai provlepsimi mexri aidias.
ta ypoloipa einai dikes mou paparies...Ayto akrivos pou les htan gia mena to kalytero sto ergo.
My words but a whisper - your deafness a shout
ok
symfonoume sto oti DEN itan ena tromaxtiko thriller.itan mia koinoniki tainia.
apo kei kai pera esena mporei na sou fanike oreo.
emena mou fanike vareto,kourastiko,me apisteuta klisarismenes "filosofikes" kai koinonikes anafores.tha mporouse toulaxiston na exei skoteini atmosfera.oute auto to eixe.i ypothesi itan provlepsimi (ki esy paradextikes oti katalaves ti paizei).opote nomizo oti eksigisa eparkws giati de mou arese
So you're climbing upwards through structures of metal and glass
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