Help me to PC..

**rockavlon** · 25-01-2004, 21:16

re i ati einai rocksteady .. kai fast.
thn 330 epeidh thn eixa i voodoo 1 thn patage pantou ektos apo to motoracer pou itan isaxies - giauto kai phra voodoo tote epeidh eklega ta lefta mou me th bourouxa ths nvidia.

**BLiTzER** · 25-01-2004, 23:08

H voodoo 1 den htan stand-alone. Eprepe na eixes hdh 2D karta grafikon kai h voodoo apla analamvane ta 3D. Kai h voodoo 2 nomizo ekane akrivos to idio. Apo thn 3 kai meta eginan kartes grafikon (apo aploi 3D epitaxyntes). H V330 htan mia genia mprosta stis 2D/3D kartes.

**rockavlon** · 25-01-2004, 23:39

so ? h V1 patouse thn v330 katw... tespa.

fast forward to today. H ATI einai BASILIAS

**BLiTzER** · 25-01-2004, 23:45

So h V1 eixe 4MB mnhmh gia ta 3D grafika + thn hdh yparxousa karta grafikon (me th dikh ths mnhmh kai GPU) gia ta 2D grafika, eno h 330 me 4MB mnhmh ekane ta panta. De nomizo oti yparxei sygkrish.

NVidia re mouniaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

**cloud** · 26-01-2004, 15:57

Originally Posted by BLi

[zER]Haha.. ontos eimai kapos.. ehm.. "volemenos".

H Microsoft, pera apo to kraksimo pou troei, einai terastia etaireia kai exei prosferei POLLA sto xoro. Sxedon oti proion vgazei, eite hardware, eite software, einai eggyhsh.

H NVidia ki an exei prosferei sto xoro. Pairno kartes ths apo thn epoxh ths Viper V330 (xalara H koryfh sthn epoxh ths) kai eimai apolyta eyxaristhmenos. To idio kai gia thn Intel. Me exoun kerdisei ola ayta ta xronia, me exoun vgalei asproprosopo.. de vrisko kanena apolytos logo na allakso. Gia na kerdiso 5 fps h 10 euro? Protimo kati dokimasmeno kai aksiopisto.

Ekeino to teleytaio "dokimasmeno kai aksiopisto" to perimena pws tha to eleges. Ayth akrivws einai h diafora mas. Egw koitaw epidoseis, an aytes einai ikanopoihtikes, den pa na nai ellhnikh etairia, tha to agorasw to proion gia na thn sthriksw. Wstoso omws den stekei ayto pou les peri ATi kai AMD, kathws kai oi dyo einai akrws aksiopistes. Kai pws tha mporousan na mhn htan, thn stigmh pou vriskontai kai oi dyo perissotero kairo ston xwro apo tis Nvidia kai intel antistoixa. Oi perissoteroi vevaia den gnwrizoun oti h amd evgale prwth tous x86, argotera kapoia stelexh ths etairia efygan gia na sxhmatisoun thn intel, kai etsi thewroun thn intel ws prwtoporo (oxi adika pantws ws ena shmeio). Apo thn allh, stis kartes grafikwn thn epanastash efere vevaia h 3Dfx pou prwth eishgage 3d accelerator. Ola ayta ta grafw giati variemai, shzythsh na ginetai. Thn nvidia pantws an thes thn gnwmh mou, tha thn xasoume se merika xronia an den allaksei dramatika thn strthgikh ths. To oti kratietai akomh, ofeiletai sto oti einai isxyrh, alliws tha eixe pathei ta idia me thn 3dfx (pou an den ksereis thn istoria ths, einai gia polla gelia!). Hdh h microsoft, to divx kai pantos eidous site kai periodika sthrizoun safws thn ATi pou teienei na ginei to neo katesthmeno.

**BLiTzER** · 26-01-2004, 16:04

Originally Posted by cloud

Wstoso omws den stekei ayto pou les peri ATi kai AMD, kathws kai oi dyo einai akrws aksiopistes.

De diafono, alla exo dokimasei ta proionta pou xrhsimopoio kai eimai akros eyxaristhmenos. Giati na "diakindyneyso" na paro kati allo?

AMD de tha pairna pote, giati de mou gemizoun to mati (an einai aksiologoi h oxi einai allo thema). Toso logo gnoston provlhmaton yperthermanshs oso kai asymvatothtas (toulaxiston sta matia mou). Protimo ta pio fthna montela ths Intel (vlepe Celeron).

H NV de nomizo oti tha antimetopisei kanena provlhma an thes th gnomh mou. Apla mexri prosfata den eixe kanenan apolytos antagonisth kai de xreiasthke pote na ftasei ta chipsets ths sta oria. Thymasai ti epidoseis eixan oi teleytaies kartes ths prin anagkastei na vgalei tous Detonator drivers logo ATI? Des ti epidoseis exoun oi idies akrivos kartes me mia aplh allagh drivers kai tha katalaveis ti ennoo. Apla tora paleyoun kai oi 2 gia thn protia kai exei plaka.

**cloud** · 26-01-2004, 16:18

Gia thn AMD kai thn yperthermansh exeis meinei ligo pisw. Epishs o celeron kamia sxesh den exei me athlon. px o dikos mou 1800+ (1541 MHz) trwei aneta ton Celeron sta 2.6. Einai thema arxitektonikhs. Vevaia sta shmeia trwei kai ton P4 2.4 opws me plhroforei to Sandra. Ase pou enas filos mou me mia epox mobo kai kalh psyksh tou exei gamisei thn mana sto overclocking(ayto epeidh akougetai oti den kanoun kalo overclocking oi amd).

Gia thn ATi to provhma ths gia xronia htan oi drivers. Apo thn stigmh pou evgale tous catalysts kai apofasise na tous veltiwnei kathe mhna, anevhke ston throno.

**BLiTzER** · 26-01-2004, 16:29

Originally Posted by cloud

Gia thn AMD kai thn yperthermansh exeis meinei ligo pisw.

Ksero oti exoun allaksei arketa ta pragmata gi'ayto eipa "sta dika mou matia". Mou xei katsei tora kai den allazo.

Originally Posted by cloud

Epishs o celeron kamia sxesh den exei me athlon. px o dikos mou 1800+ (1541 MHz) trwei aneta ton Celeron sta 2.6. Einai thema arxitektonikhs.

Oi Celeron safestata einai oi fthnes CPU ths Intel (mikrotero FSB, L2 cache, ktl) kai de mporeis na tous sygkrineis me tous kyrious epeksergastes ths AMD. Kai pali den pisteyo oti enas AMD 1800+ exei ton C2600 sthn praksh. Anyway ksefygame. Ftiakse ena thread AMD vs Intel ;P

**cloud** · 26-01-2004, 16:35

Originally Posted by BLi

[zER] Ftiakse ena thread AMD vs Intel ;P

E twra ta eipame ola

Eksallou den fainetai na endiaferetai kaneis allos.

**symposium_lexotanil** · 27-01-2004, 11:33

xm afou i kouventa pige (kai) stis kartes grafikon kapoia stigmi as min anoikso neo topik.
den exo karta grafikon (ektos apo tin built in tis motherboard) kathws den paizo paixnidia ktl oute mou xreiazetai genika.alla psinomai na paro tora gia na paizo to kainourgio prince of persia (sands of time).
proteinete kati (sxetika) ftino kai aksiopisto plz.

**Deggial** · 27-01-2004, 13:10

ati Radeon 9600 Pro με 150 ευρώ (+Φ.Π.Α.).

**symposium_lexotanil** · 27-01-2004, 13:55

auto einai to minimum : NVIDIA GeForce 3 or higher (excluding NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX), ATI Radeon 8500 or higher

kai auto to recommended : NVIDIA GeForce 4 or ATI Radeon 9500

opote ok fantazomai

**cloud** · 27-01-2004, 15:39

H radeon pou proteine o Deggial einai poly kalh, alla an thes mia pio fthnh tha sou proteina thn radeon 9600 SE ths ASUS, thn poulaei mono to plaisio peripou 100 euro, kai exei ligo xamhloteres apidoseis apo thn proanafertheisa. An thes kati akomh pio fthno, tha kaneis douleia kai me thn Radeon 9200. Isws malista afou thn thes gia ena kai mono paixnidi na einai h kalyterh lysh.

**BLiTzER** · 27-01-2004, 15:55

Ok merikes "fthnes" NVidia kartes.

GF4 Ti4200 64MB DDR: Prohgoumenhs genias, alla exei xalara ta mikrotera FX montela kai shkonei mpoliko overclocking. To mono meion ths einai oti den yposthrizei DX9. Protimhse me ta 64 MB kathos exei pio grhgorh mnhmh kai apodidei kalytera se analyseis mexri 1024x768 (den exo xrhsimopoihsei pote mou ypshloterh). Logika tha th vreis pamfthna, mia kai prohgoumenhs genias, alla mallon tha protimhseis kati neotero

Ego thn eixa parei 180e prin ena xrono (kapou ekei protokykloforhse).

GF FX5700 Ultra 128MB DDR: An se pairnoun ta lefta sou (prepei na exei gyro sta 200e). Poly kalh kai yposthrizei DX9 gia neotera games. An kai de nomizo oti exoun vgei polla pou ekmetalleyontai to DX9 plhros, alla tespa. Gia na katalaveis pou vrisketai peripou me tis ATI, antagonizetai sta isa thn Radeon 9600XT.

**cloud** · 27-01-2004, 15:57

Ela re vgainei akomh h 4200? Apokleietai, to poly kamia 4400(kses aytes me to 8x AGP.)

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