Poio tragoudi tha dialegate gia na aytoktonhsete?

[symposium_lexotanil]

malakies.
exo messenger gamo to touli gia tou xristouli sou

[cancer]

xmm legontas "fak katathliptika tragoudia" ennoousa to eksis :
ok, oloi pairname dyskoles faseis, isws na ftanoume kai se simeio katathlipsis, kai poio einai to prwto pragma pou kanoume? swsta mantepsate, prospathoume na vroume dieksodo sti mousiki, na "apalynoume ton pono" mas ktl. vazoume sto sinti player to album tou agapimenou mas X kallitexni kai aisthanomaste anatrixiles kai alla synaisthimata pou oloi gnwrizete. praktika omws mas kanei kalo ayto? dld entaksei, ontws i stigmi ayti einai magiki kai mpaineis eykola stin atmosfaira tou tragoudiou kai "vythizesai se wkeanous melagxolias". alla se ti akrivws voithaei ayto?
dld gia paradeigma an exw mia sxesi gia poly kairo kai i alli me paratisei, poso tha me voithisei psyxologika to -kata t'alla teleio- "wish you were here" twn pink floyd? de tha voithouse poly perissotero ena tragoudi me titlo px "you are not here, so fuck off". giati tha prepei i mousiki pou akouw otan eimai se tetoia katastasi na mou thymizei ayti tin skatokatastasi kai na me mizeriazei perissotero? de einai poly pio thetiko to na akousw ena tragoudi pou tha mou dwsei DYNAMI?
oi skatokatastaseis erxontai kai parerxontai, den yparxei noima sto na klaigomaste gia to pws ta pragmata tha mporousan na einai kalytera, nomizw oti einai kalytero na syneiditopoioume oti ta pragmata einai opws einai, to parelthon de tha ksanazwntanepsei o,ti kai na kanoume kai akoma kai an ginei ayto, de tha einai pote akrivws to idio.
proswpika o teleytaios xronos itan o xeiroteros tis zwis mou kai o,ti mporouse na paei strava pige. perasa poly kairo akougontas katathliptiki mousiki, vythismenos stis skepseis mou ktl nomizontas oti ayto me voithaei, alla pleon nomizw oti mono kako ekane. i toulaxiston, den ekane kalo.
de goustarw pleon na akouw tpt katathliptiko (oute tpt idiaitera xaroumeno vevaia alla ayto einai mallon thema goustou i synitheias), thelw na akouw mousiki pou na mou dinei dynami, na me kanei na pisteyw oti tipota de mporei na stamatisei tin poreia mou in life, oti ta provlimata apla me kanoun dynatotero kai kyriws oti mporw na antimetwpisw ta panta, estw kai me kapoies apwleies.
entaksei, eimai 22 xronwn, de goustarw na xanw xrono apo ti zwi mou skeptomenos pws tha mporousan na einai ta pragmata, protimw na dw pws EINAI ta pragmata kai na prospathisw na allaksw o,ti paei strava.
ok, den eimai apolytos, ta katathliptika tragoudia ontws xreiazontai kapoies stigmes, alla an ftaseis se simeio oi stigmes aytes na einai meros tis kathimerinotitas sou, kapou exeis xasei to dromo sou.


And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.

sinel8e

[Amnesiac.]

psofo kako kai oi dyo sas.
EIMAI sto msn.

[morphine]

to post tou amniziak me evale se skepseis.
Epeidh h3era ti 8a grapsei dhladh to skeftomoun olh th mera

Vasika eixa grapsei ena katevato alla 3enerwsa kai to esvhsa.

Sthn telikh, opws th vriskei o ka8enas. Emena kamia fora m'aresei (oxi akrivws m'aresei, alla protimw as poume) na eimai kapws, kai na akouw mousikh analogh (h kai kati pou 8a me kanei xeirotera). Pes to mazoxismo. Pes to hli8iothta, 3erw gw? Apla an eimai se mia katastash X protimw na akousw o,ti kumainetai se auta ta epipeda as poume. E akouw ligo skatomousikh, meta apo ligo mizeriazw, neuriazw pou mizeriazw kai mou pernaei. So simple Enw an valw mousikh pou na mhn tairiazei me thn psuxologikh mou katastash neuriazw kai de mporw na thn akousw. Vare8hka paw na milhsw me to fixxxer sto msn

[marianna2525]

dld gia paradeigma an exw mia sxesi gia poly kairo kai i alli me paratisei, poso tha me voithisei psyxologika to -kata t'alla teleio- "wish you were here" twn pink floyd? .[/b]

Το wish you were here δεν σε βοηθάει να αυτοκτονήσεις, αντίθετα έχει μια δόση γλυκειάς νοσταλγίας για πρόσωπα του παρελθόντος, τα οποία βέβαια έχεις ξεπεράσει, αλλά θα τα ήθελες τώρα κοντά σου, έστω για λίγο.
Μην ξεχνάς, πως ο Waters το έγραψε για τον Barrett, πάλι αδιάβαστο σε βρήκα Amnesiac, τι έγραφα 2 μήνες στο pink floyd...

[morphine]

Flame on.

[Amnesiac.]

xmm ontws itan astoxo to paradeigma mou me to "wish you were here" twn pink floyd. entaksei, to noima paramenei to idio, as poume oti yparxei ena allo kommati me ton idio titlo pou anaferetai s'ayta pou egrapsa pio panw.

vsk den ennoousa oti akouw mousiki pou den tairiazei me tin psyxologiki mou katastasi, de mporw se kamia periptwsi na epivallw ston eayto mou na akousei kati me to zori, gi'ayto allwste den akouw kai polli xaroumeni mousiki. apla i psyxologiki mou katastasi me kanei na mi thelw na akousw kati "mizerere" (pou leei kai o rockavlos) alla kati pou tha me valei sto trip tou na skeftomai thetika.

xwris aparaitita oi stixoi na exoun ayto to "concept", peri thetikis skepsis.

gia paradeigma, oi dillinger escape plan me kanoun na skeftomai thetika, an kai oi stixoi tous einai "allou" kai i mousiki tous den einai xaroumeni.

same goes for tool. mono pou s'ayti tin periptwsi kai oi stixoi orismenes fores symvalloun s'ayto.

[After Dark]

Gia na aytoktonhseis einai o,ti prepei kati apo Joy Division,isws to Day Of The Lords p.x.
Epishs,me kati strumfometal se styl Luca Turilli mporeis aneta na kopseis tis fleves sou h' o,ti vreis mprosta sou apo to na kathiseis na ta akouseis.

[dyingfreedom]

Anathema - Lost Control

Paradise Lost - Enchantment

και αντίο κόσμε...

[Dragonlord]

Dream Theater - Space Dye-Vest

ntaxei, iremise, de sti lew, apla kati thread typou "an oi klanies itan xrwmatistes tha klanate dimosiws?" exoun mia xari!

xexe kati eixa parei ekeinh thn mera

χρωματιστά φασόλια?

[marianna2525]

xmm ontws itan astoxo to paradeigma mou me to "wish you were here" twn pink floyd. entaksei, to noima paramenei to idio, as poume oti yparxei ena allo kommati me ton idio titlo pou anaferetai s'ayta pou egrapsa pio panw.

vsk den ennoousa oti akouw mousiki pou den tairiazei me tin psyxologiki mou katastasi, de mporw se kamia periptwsi na epivallw ston eayto mou na akousei kati me to zori, gi'ayto allwste den akouw kai polli xaroumeni mousiki. apla i psyxologiki mou katastasi me kanei na mi thelw na akousw kati "mizerere" (pou leei kai o rockavlos) alla kati pou tha me valei sto trip tou na skeftomai thetika.

xwris aparaitita oi stixoi na exoun ayto to "concept", peri thetikis skepsis.

gia paradeigma, oi dillinger escape plan me kanoun na skeftomai thetika, an kai oi stixoi tous einai "allou" kai i mousiki tous den einai xaroumeni.

same goes for tool. mono pou s'ayti tin periptwsi kai oi stixoi orismenes fores symvalloun s'ayto.

Μα είναι δυνατόν να ακούς ψυχοπλακωτική μουσική, από τότε που γνώρισες εμένα;

[Neron]

Fade Out-Radiohead
kai kala koliva

[StationEleven]

kai to creep...denkako

[Oriion]

oson afora to thema tou thread...o kyr thanos pethane paraponemenos...

pantos ayto pou eipe o Amnesiac htan polu endiaferon kai pisteyo oti einai ayto pou shkonei perissoterh kouventa.
Me vash to oti kata kanona o anthropos prospathei na isorropei psuxologika tis katastaseis (vlepe gamos xoris klammata, khdeia xoris geloia...) einai periergo to oti otan erxomaste sthn epilogh ths mousikhs theloume kati pou tha entinei ta synaisthimata mas.
Isos ayto na ginetai giati ayto pou prosferei h mousikh me ton tropo thw einai ektonosh. Opos kamia fora einai xrhsimo na peis kati pou se provlhmatizei se ena filo giati sou feygei megalo meros toy varous, etsi leitourgei kai h mousikh. Alloste an h mousikh leitourgouse diaforetika ta moirologia den tha htan penthima, tha htan tsiftetelia...

[cloud]

@Amnesiac: sxetika me to mini dokimio sou tha sou pw ena pragma (pera apo to oti diafwnw) :OMOIOPATHEIA. Leitourgei poly kala file mou, kai mallon tha to exeis dei kai esy yposeinhdhta. Dld. an den eisai kala kai akouseis kati melagholiko tote mallon tha niwseis kalytera pithanon. Einai kati san tis arxaies tragwdies: oi anthrwpoi ksorkizan tous daimones tous koitazontas tous katamata. An eimai xalia kai akousw kati "anevastiko" h xazoxaroumeno tha niwsw xeirotera.
Apo thn allh pali isxyei kai to gnwsto: "don't drug me down just cuz you're down". Dld. tragoudia pou se rixnoun poly enw prin hsoun mia xara.