Ελληνικά vs Ξένα πανεπιστήμια(ναι, πάλι)- σπλιτ από ιδιωτικά

[jimid]

Πληροφοριακά, για το δικό μου μεταπτυχιακό μιά χαρά
ξεσκίστηκα. Και λόγω πανεπιστημίου από το οποίο αποφοίτησα
βρήκα δουλειά μέσα σε δέκα μέρες από τη στιγμή που γύρισα ενώ
ο κλάδος περνάει κρίση.

Αυτά τα είπα αφ'ενός μεν για να μην νομίζουμε ότι η διαφορά
στο επίπεδο είναι τραγική (όντως υπάρχει μια διαφορά πάντως)
αλλά και για να δείξω ότι οι εταιρίες τα πτυχία από καλά πανεπισ-
τήμια της Αγγλίας τα εκτιμούν δεόντως.

Τέλος, όλα τα πανεπιστήμια στην Αγγλία είναι ιδιωτικά.

[Carcass_]

nai egw den diafwnw oute sto oti kseskistikes , oute sto oti oi etairies sthn Agglia den ektimoun ta ptuxeia.
Sthn Ellada isxuei to prwto, alla epeidh o Ellhnas ergodoths einai panw apo ola vlaxos kai guftos tis perissoteres fores, den isxuei to deutero.

[jimid]

Στην Ελλάδα εννοούσα πως βρήκα δουλειά.

Έχεις δίκαιο για τους εργοδότες όμως ό,τι και
να κάνεις αυτοί δεν πρόκειται να αλλάξουν δυστυχώς.
Παίζει και ο τομέας που ασχολείσαι βέβαια.

Τέλος πάντων.
Onwards!

[freak brother]

Apla: Skepsou oti tha uparxei to kratiko kai to idiwtiko AEI pliroforikis. kai ta 2 exoun tin IDIA anagnwrisi apo to kratos. sto deutero, exoun "logo" kai oi etairies gia na enarmonistei i sxoli me tis apaitiseis tis agoras. exw pou den exw lefta na paw sto idiwtiko, tha mpw stin etairia sunagwnizomenos me esena pou ta exeis kai apofoitises apo to idiwtiko? Poion tha protimisei i etairia kai i kathe etairia?

auton apo ton idiwtiko tomea .. giati to teleiwse to panepistimio ston xrono tou kai oxi ton aiwnio ellhna foitith pou mexri na teleiwsei to panepistimio exei gamhthei sta skonakia , exei graftei sthn dap gia na ton perasoun ta ergastiria exei kwloglupsei ton kathhghth tou kai otan teleiwsei me to kalo to panepistimio sta 8 xronia kai auta ta liga pou xei mathei tha ta xei xehasei..

[katwrimos]

Freakbro exeis perasei pote sou ekso apo elliniko panepistimio?

O typos foititi pou perigrafeis apotelei miopsifia.


Kata ta alla eksakoloutho na pistevo oti einai adianoito na forologithoume emeis gia kati pou tha ofelisei tis etairies. Yparxei kaneis pou exei kapoio pistiko epixeirima gia na me pisei gia to antitheto??

[freak brother]

Freakbro exeis perasei pote sou ekso apo elliniko panepistimio?

O typos foititi pou perigrafeis apotelei miopsifia.


Kata ta alla eksakoloutho na pistevo oti einai adianoito na forologithoume emeis gia kati pou tha ofelisei tis etairies. Yparxei kaneis pou exei kapoio pistiko epixeirima gia na me pisei gia to antitheto??

fainetai oloi oi filoi mou pou xoun teleiwsei to panepistimio kai tous exei parei 5+ einai kathysterhmenoi.

[katwrimos]

Freakbro exeis perasei pote sou ekso apo elliniko panepistimio?

O typos foititi pou perigrafeis apotelei miopsifia.


Kata ta alla eksakoloutho na pistevo oti einai adianoito na forologithoume emeis gia kati pou tha ofelisei tis etairies. Yparxei kaneis pou exei kapoio pistiko epixeirima gia na me pisei gia to antitheto??

fainetai oloi oi filoi mou pou xoun teleiwsei to panepistimio kai tous exei parei 5+ einai kathysterhmenoi.

An oi filoi soi xreiazontai skonakia, glypsimata kai 8 xronia foitisis gia na teleiosoun ena panepistimio, tote SIGOURA einai kathisterimenoi

[freak brother]

Freakbro exeis perasei pote sou ekso apo elliniko panepistimio?

O typos foititi pou perigrafeis apotelei miopsifia.


Kata ta alla eksakoloutho na pistevo oti einai adianoito na forologithoume emeis gia kati pou tha ofelisei tis etairies. Yparxei kaneis pou exei kapoio pistiko epixeirima gia na me pisei gia to antitheto??

fainetai oloi oi filoi mou pou xoun teleiwsei to panepistimio kai tous exei parei 5+ einai kathysterhmenoi.

An oi filoi soi xreiazontai skonakia, glypsimata kai 8 xronia foitisis gia na teleiosoun ena panepistimio, tote SIGOURA einai kathisterimenoi

sta ellhnika panepisthmia kai sta panepistimia tha anatolikhs evrwphs ginontai auta.. pouthena allou. ase tous apeirous foithtes pou grafontai sto panepistimio kai spoudazoun allou etsi gia na xoune to paso.....tespa
parakmh

[katwrimos]

[quote=freak brother]

Freakbro exeis perasei pote sou ekso apo elliniko panepistimio?

O typos foititi pou perigrafeis apotelei miopsifia.


Kata ta alla eksakoloutho na pistevo oti einai adianoito na forologithoume emeis gia kati pou tha ofelisei tis etairies. Yparxei kaneis pou exei kapoio pistiko epixeirima gia na me pisei gia to antitheto??

fainetai oloi oi filoi mou pou xoun teleiwsei to panepistimio kai tous exei parei 5+ einai kathysterhmenoi.

An oi filoi soi xreiazontai skonakia, glypsimata kai 8 xronia foitisis gia na teleiosoun ena panepistimio, tote SIGOURA einai kathisterimenoi

sta ellhnika panepisthmia kai sta panepistimia tha anatolikhs evrwphs ginontai auta.. pouthena allou. ase tous apeirous foithtes pou grafontai sto panepistimio kai spoudazoun allou etsi gia na xoune to paso.....tespa
parakmh[/quote:17i5w72y]

Sta ellinika panepistimia DEN ginontai afta. Sta kala panepistimia tis anatolikis europis (PX polytexnio tis mosxas) DEN ginontai auta. To oti ta kanoun oi kathisterimenoi filoi sou den apotelei kanona. Pisteveis oti px ego, o deggial kai o carcass pairnoume ta ptyxeia mas me tetoies methoous?

[Carcass_]

giati to teleiwse to panepistimio ston xrono tou kai oxi ton aiwnio ellhna foitith pou mexri na teleiwsei to panepistimio exei gamhthei sta skonakia , exei graftei sthn dap gia na ton perasoun ta ergastiria exei kwloglupsei ton kathhghth tou kai otan teleiwsei me to kalo to panepistimio sta 8 xronia kai auta ta liga pou xei mathei tha ta xei xehasei..

Re freakbro, eisai vlakas , hmarton. Ektos tou oti den ksereis pws leitourgei to ellhniko panepisthmio kai fusika den exeis foithsei pote se kati analogo, exeis mia ilithia kai kathusterhmenh apopsh ( toso kathusterhmenh oso kai to na pw oti sto idiwtiko panepisthmio plhrwneis gia na pareis to ptuxeio ). Epeidh kapoioi filoi sou leitourgoun etsi, den shmainei oti einai olos o kosmos etsi, auto pou perigrafeis einai mia meiopshfia ( den tha sou pw giati, mallon mporeis na to katalaveis kai apo monos sou ). Dld re malaka, pws sto diaolo vgazeis tous foithtes mias oloklhrhs xwras gluftes, axrhstous, tempelhdes, dapites pou pernane ta mathimata kanwntas mono skonakia ? Gamatos, exeis ola ta fonta na gineis dhmosiografos se opoiodhpote kanali thes.

Nomizw oti h suzhthsh exei lhksei, o freakbro evgale thn akrh. Eimaste sthn pleiopshfia mas glufthdes, skoniakhdes, antigrafoume , dapites kai axrhstoi. Mpravo filaraki, na xairese thn kritikh sou skepsh , me tetoious anthrwpous tha pame mprosta !

Kata ta alla, auto pou eipe o katwrimos, oi filoi sou ( lol ) eite einai kathisterhmenoi h volepsakides pou ta exoune ( kai den tous kathgorw ) kai apla kathontai kai kanoun diakopes. An vgeis apo ta sunora ths Voulas omws, tha deis oti o kosmos den einai etsi opws ton fantazese.

Ps. einai na sygxizese, na kaneis diallhma meta apo to kathimerino diavasma twn 6-7 + wrwn kai na vlepeis toso ma toso kathisterhmena posts. Sou anevenei to aima sto kefali dld.

Ps2. Mounaki freakbro, oloi kseroume oti plhrwses gia na pareis to ptuxeio sou, eskases 3.456, 34 lires ( xwris metaforika ) kai to tsimphses, gia auto skase, den aksizeis mia, glufth , kwlodoth ptuxeiouxe, eggegramene sthn neolaia ths kuvernhshs Mpler, oloi kseroume se pianou kathighth to spiti mporousame na se vroume ana pasa stigmh.

[Scrag]

Den kanete ena split lew egw Ellhnika Vs 3ena panepisthmia?

[katwrimos]

Freakbro me ti logiki sou, afou o Bush peire ptyxeio me glypsimo apo to Yale kai to Harvard, ta panepistimia afta einai gia ton poutso.

Elpizo na katalavaineis poso lathos einai na theoreis oti oi kathisteres filoi sou arkoun gia na vgaleis simperasmata gia to pos leitourgoun ta ellinika panepistimia

To glypsimo kai to skonaki paizei pantou. Apo ta TEI kavalas, mexri to Harvard.

[freak brother]

re paidia emena kathhghths panepistimiou mou xei pei sygkekrimena gia to polutexneio oti sta 5 xronia den to teleiwnei oute to 10% sta 100 ti mou lete pipes twra.. epishs to metsovio exei pososto apofoithshs gyrw sta 25% ...... milame gia oiktra pososta.

[freak brother]

giati to teleiwse to panepistimio ston xrono tou kai oxi ton aiwnio ellhna foitith pou mexri na teleiwsei to panepistimio exei gamhthei sta skonakia , exei graftei sthn dap gia na ton perasoun ta ergastiria exei kwloglupsei ton kathhghth tou kai otan teleiwsei me to kalo to panepistimio sta 8 xronia kai auta ta liga pou xei mathei tha ta xei xehasei..

Re freakbro, eisai vlakas , hmarton. Ektos tou oti den ksereis pws leitourgei to ellhniko panepisthmio kai fusika den exeis foithsei pote se kati analogo, exeis mia ilithia kai kathusterhmenh apopsh ( toso kathusterhmenh oso kai to na pw oti sto idiwtiko panepisthmio plhrwneis gia na pareis to ptuxeio ). Epeidh kapoioi filoi sou leitourgoun etsi, den shmainei oti einai olos o kosmos etsi, auto pou perigrafeis einai mia meiopshfia ( den tha sou pw giati, mallon mporeis na to katalaveis kai apo monos sou ). Dld re malaka, pws sto diaolo vgazeis tous foithtes mias oloklhrhs xwras gluftes, axrhstous, tempelhdes, dapites pou pernane ta mathimata kanwntas mono skonakia ? Gamatos, exeis ola ta fonta na gineis dhmosiografos se opoiodhpote kanali thes.

Nomizw oti h suzhthsh exei lhksei, o freakbro evgale thn akrh. Eimaste sthn pleiopshfia mas glufthdes, skoniakhdes, antigrafoume , dapites kai axrhstoi. Mpravo filaraki, na xairese thn kritikh sou skepsh , me tetoious anthrwpous tha pame mprosta !

Kata ta alla, auto pou eipe o katwrimos, oi filoi sou ( lol ) eite einai kathisterhmenoi h volepsakides pou ta exoune ( kai den tous kathgorw ) kai apla kathontai kai kanoun diakopes. An vgeis apo ta sunora ths Voulas omws, tha deis oti o kosmos den einai etsi opws ton fantazese.

Ps. einai na sygxizese, na kaneis diallhma meta apo to kathimerino diavasma twn 6-7 + wrwn kai na vlepeis toso ma toso kathisterhmena posts. Sou anevenei to aima sto kefali dld.

Ps2. Mounaki freakbro, oloi kseroume oti plhrwses gia na pareis to ptuxeio sou, eskases 3.456, 34 lires ( xwris metaforika ) kai to tsimphses, gia auto skase, den aksizeis mia, glufth , kwlodoth ptuxeiouxe, eggegramene sthn neolaia ths kuvernhshs Mpler, oloi kseroume se pianou kathighth to spiti mporousame na se vroume ana pasa stigmh.

vasika ennoeitai oti eimai hlithios kai ennoeitai oti tha goustara na eimai se ellhniko panepistimio kai apla den diavaza .
kai ennoeitai oti den exw paei pote se ellhniko panepistimio apauta pou akouw kai psilo vlepw lew.

peace love unity

epishs den ftaine oi foithtes pou den teleiwnoun sthn wra tous paizoun kai katalhpseis apergeies souxou mouxou pou den paizoun exw.

[Carcass_]

Tou metsoviou oi sxoles einai oles 5 eth kai h pleiopshfia tous exei meso oro apofoithshs gurw sta 6 xronia , ara mathimatika den isxuei auto pou les kathws kserw kai anthrwpous pou teleiwnoun polutexnikes sxoles sta 3.5 kai 4 xronia.

Vevaia an skeftoume oti ta panepisthmia sthn Ellada kai kuriws to Metsovio lene psemata kai koroideuoun ton kosmo ( opws kai sthn anatolikh eurwph ) kai osa anagrafoun sta programmata spoudwn tous einai moufes, tote fusika isxuei auto pou les kai eixes eks'arxhs apoluto dikio.


Ps. Tha mporouse kapoios na pei oti den isxuei auto pou les, mias kai to metsovio einai to monadiko panepisthmio sthn Ellada ( isws mazi me to polutexnio krhths ) opou exei arketa kalh thesh anamesa sta Eurwpaika panepisthmia kai auto den tha mporouse na to kataferei me to mhn pairnei to 90%-80% ptuxeio sta 5 xronia , alla an skefteis apo thn allh oti tous plhrwsane gia na lene kala logia gia to metsovio kai na to valoun se mia kalh thesh, tote safws kai exeis dikio kai prepei na kanei ekpomph o Euaggelatos gia na doume pws pernane auta ta lefta " katw apo to trapezi, kariola " ( den kserw an me pianeis ) kai na tous tsimphsoume olous kai na swsoume ton kosmo.