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    Quote Originally Posted by silencerius
    A episis teleutaia (exei mia bdomada pou sinebei prwth fora kai sinebei kai proxthes) exw allo problima me ton ypno, einai kapws paromoio alla oxi to idio.
    Exw tin aisthisi oti stamataei i anapnoh mou kai i kardia mou ston ypno mou kai ksipnaw entromos tremwntas kai me 200 sfigmous to deuterolepto..
    Αυτό το παθαίνω και εγώ εδώ και λίγο καιρό
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    minus 6 epidis thelei subsciprtion gia kane cp i toulaxiston elaborate ligo to topic
    And what exactly is a dream
    And what exactly is a joke.



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    μα δεν άλλαξαν.
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    Btw, kserei kaneis an exoun katagraftei periptwseis thanatou pou na sisxetizontai me tis diataraxes autes?

    "The island gives you what you need" - Locke


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    Quote Originally Posted by silencerius
    A episis teleutaia (exei mia bdomada pou sinebei prwth fora kai sinebei kai proxthes) exw allo problima me ton ypno, einai kapws paromoio alla oxi to idio.
    Exw tin aisthisi oti stamataei i anapnoh mou kai i kardia mou ston ypno mou kai ksipnaw entromos tremwntas kai me 200 sfigmous to deuterolepto..

    edit: xwris na exei proigithei oneiro, kai einai panta otan PAW na koimithw, dhladh me pairnei ligo, ginetai auto kai ksypnaw, an me parei gia ta kala o ypnos den mou ksanasimbainei.
    Kai tis 2 fores pou egine imoun poly kourasmenos kai poly aypnos.

    ti skata
    Kserete tipota gia auto to fainomeno?
    Silencerius mipws exeis provlima me roxalito? Exw akousei gia anthrwpous pou tous kovetai i anasa logw xalaris stomatikis koilotitas kai ksypnoun asynaisthita akomi kai 100 fores kata ti diarkeia tou ypnou tous kai allazoun thesi gia na paroun anasa. Tis perissoteres fores fysika den to katalavainoun, enw kapoies fores nomizoun pws ksypnoun apo efialti.

    Den exw akousei gia thanatous btw.
    Pantws sigoura ta atoma auta einai diarkws "ptwmata" apo tin kourasi
    Twisted sisters of mercyful fates warning

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    Roxalizw mono otan eimai poly poly kourasmenos. Pote allote.

    to thema einai oti auto pou grafeis den exei sxesi me to problima pou ekanes quote. To pragma auto me pianei otan PAW na koimithw, stis arxes, otan me parei liigo o ypnos.. prin mpw se REM, pws na to pw

    ama me parei o ypnos meta den ksipnaw.

    "The island gives you what you need" - Locke


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    Quote Originally Posted by silencerius
    A episis teleutaia (exei mia bdomada pou sinebei prwth fora kai sinebei kai proxthes) exw allo problima me ton ypno, einai kapws paromoio alla oxi to idio.
    Exw tin aisthisi oti stamataei i anapnoh mou kai i kardia mou ston ypno mou kai ksipnaw entromos tremwntas kai me 200 sfigmous to deuterolepto..
    Όταν ξυπνάς, είσαι υδρωμένος; Νιώθεις πως πνίγεσαι ή όλη τη μέρα νιώθεις πως δεν έχεις κοιμηθεί καθόλου;
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    Otan ksipnaw den eimai idrwmenos nomizw. Den eimai apolyta sigouros omws.

    Den niwthw pws pnigomai, einai periergo feeling. Niwthw pws ama de ksipnisw tha stamatisei i kardia mou kai tha pethanw.

    Den katalaba ti akribws ennoeis me to "ή όλη τη μέρα νιώθεις πως δεν έχεις κοιμηθεί καθόλου;"
    Pantws stin pragmatikotita DEN exw koimithei katholou mias kai me pianei stis arxes prin koimithw gia ta kala.

    "The island gives you what you need" - Locke


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    Quote Originally Posted by silencerius
    Btw, kserei kaneis an exoun katagraftei periptwseis thanatou pou na sisxetizontai me tis diataraxes autes?
    polles ..alla se megales sxetika hlikies kai me synoda problhmata tou kykloforikou-anapneystikou.

    egkefalika epeisodia - emfragmata kardias einai syxnh katalh3h apo syndromo apofraktikwn apnoiwn ypnou.

    mh trelenestai...exete akoma xrono gia na pe8anete ..einai nwris akoma
    estw ki an exete apo twra apnoies ston ypno anw tou fysiologikou ari8mou apnoiwn.

    telos kalo einai osoi exete tetoia probs me ypno na koita3ete ligo ta ormonika sas...
    o ypnos kai h dia8esh genikotera ephreazete amesa apo ormonikes diataraxes estw kai mikres pou den dhmiourgoun alla symptwmata.
    Πονος Μυαλου!

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    to stress paizei katholou rolo?

    i melagxolia i kapoia elafrias morfis katathlipsi tha mporousan na odigisoun se kati tetoio?

    i antitheta tha mporouse auto na einai simptwma twn parapanw?

    "The island gives you what you need" - Locke


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    Μπορεί απλά να οφείλεται στο άγχος, τότε. Anyway, αν δει ο Dr. Death το thread μπορεί να μας διαφωτίσει περισσότερο.

    Ένα site αναλυτικό για διαταραχές του ύπνου: http://www.sleepnet.com/

    EDIT: doh, πρόλαβε και το είδε.
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    wraia ola auta valte kai ena warning "MI DIAVASETE AUTO TO TOPIC OTAN PROKEITE NA PESETE YIA YPNO" yiati einai ligo friki ontws
    Efialtes ehw dei para pollous alla oso megalwnw toso ligotero me epyreazoun psychologika,palioterta (prin 4-5 hronia kai ligotero) mporousan na mou prokalesoun aypnies enw ehw xipnisei apeires fores fonazontas.
    Twra yia mauro anthrwpo den ehw akousei sygekrimena alla ehw akousei apeires istories me paraisthiseis klp
    "i speak without reservation from what i know and who i am. i do so with the understanding that all people should have the right to offer their voice to the chorus whether the result is harmony or dissonance, the worldsong is a colorless dirge without the differences that distinguish us,

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    Quote Originally Posted by silencerius
    Roxalizw mono otan eimai poly poly kourasmenos. Pote allote.

    to thema einai oti auto pou grafeis den exei sxesi me to problima pou ekanes quote. To pragma auto me pianei otan PAW na koimithw, stis arxes, otan me parei liigo o ypnos.. prin mpw se REM, pws na to pw

    ama me parei o ypnos meta den ksipnaw.
    o REM eiani synh8ws pros tis teleytaies wres tou ypnou...
    ap osa exw dei kai exw perasei exeis safestata agxwdh diataraxh pou sou bgainei toulaxiston ap osa les ston ypno.

    oi giatroi pou sou xreiazonte gia symboules AN 8ewreis pws einai problhma to sygkekrimeno kai prepei na to koita3eis (gia mena den einai apla xalarwse me kapoion tropo ap to ka8hmerino agxos) einai oi e3hs akolou8oi:

    neyrologos-psyxiatros
    pneymonologos

    ergasthrio ypnou yparxei sto aiginhteio kai sto swthria an 8es sou dinw kai thl
    Πονος Μυαλου!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid Baby
    minus 6 epidis thelei subsciprtion gia kane cp i toulaxiston elaborate ligo to topic
    fck! Τώρα το είδα, ο οργανισμός που δουλεύω έχει subscription στο journal. Για να μην έχουμε copyright προβλήματα θα το κάνω elaborate.

    Συνοπτικά το paper ασχολείται με τις εξωσωματικές εμπειρίες (out of body experience, OBE) και την αυτοσκοπία (autoscopy, AS). ΟΒΕ ξέρετε όλοι πιστεύω τι είναι. AS είναι το ακριβώς το αντίστροφο, δλδ από το πραγματικό σου σώμα βλέπεις το εξωσωματικό σου.

    Οι συγγραφείς εξετάζουν την περίπτωση έξι ασθενών, μέσω μαρτυριών, εγκεφαλογραφημάτων και brain imaging τεχνολογιών. Διαπιστώνουν ότι στις 5 περιπτώσεις υπάρχει ζημιά στο temporo-patial junction (δεν επιχειρώ να το μεταφράσω). Αυτό υποδηλώνει βλάβη στο μηχανισμό αντίληψης του σώματος. Χρησιμοποιώντας όλα τα δεδομένα από τους ασθενείς καταλήγουν στο συμπέρασμα ότι τα εξωσωματικά φαινόμενα οφείλονται και στους δύο παρακατω παράγοντες.
    1) Λάθος είσοδος στα βασικά συστήματα αισθήσεων.
    2) Δυσλειτουργία του συστήματος οριοθέτησης στο χώρο.
    Στο πρωτότυπο:
    We suggest that OBE and AS are related to a failure to integrate proprioceptive, tactile and visual information with respect to one’s own body (disintegration in personal space) and by a vestibular dysfunction leading to an additional disintegration between personal (vestibular) space and extrapersonal (visual) space. We argue that both disintegrations (personal; personal–extrapersonal) are necessary for the occurrence of OBE and AS, and that they are due to a paroxysmal cerebral dysfunction of the TPJ in a state of partially and briefly impaired consciousness
    Αυτό που λέει ο alaiah συμβαίνει. Οι διαταραχές στο αναπνευστικό σύστημα είναι από τις κυριότερες αιτίες αϋπνίας. silencerius, θα σου πρότεινα να κοιτάξεις τη μύτη σου αν συνεχιστεί. Για το φόβο όταν ξυπνάς με μόρα εγώ κάνε αυτό που λέει (περίπου) ο eyeamflesch. Μη μασάς και "διώξτη" μόνος σου. Φαντάσου δλδ ότι την πετάς από πάνω σου και προσπάθησε να κάνεις το σώμα σου να σε ακολουθήσει. Εγώ αυτό κάνω και (για μένα τουλάχιστον) δουλεύει.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Death

    o REM eiani synh8ws pros tis teleytaies wres tou ypnou...
    ap oso gnwrizw kata ti diarkeia tou REM vlepeis oneira
    ehw kati notes panw s auto
    Upnos einai mia katastash anais8hsias apo thn opoia mporei to atomo na epanel8ei. H fusiologikh katastash tou egkafalou einai na brisketai se upno. Gia na jupnhsei kapoios prepei na uparjei energopoihsh tou kentrou tou upnou (ARAS - Ascending Reticular Activating System). Auto to kentro 8ewreitai oti filtrarei ta diafora dedomena pou metaferontai ston egkefalo apo ta diafora ais8hthria organa kai etsi mono ena polu dunato ere8isma 8a perasei kai 8a ftasei ston floio tou egkefalou etsi wste na to katalaboume.

    Otan kaneis egkefalografhma (bazeis hlektrodia se diafora shmeia tou egkefalou k katagrafeis thn hlektrikh drasthriothta tou se morfh kumatwn) se ena jupnio an8rwpo o opoios xalarwnei (den skeftetai poluploka pramata klp) katagrafetai mia morfh kumatos pou legontai α kumata. otan kanei energh skeyh o an8rwpos parathreis β kumata. Otan koimatai blepeis δ kumata. Uparxei k paradojos upnos ston opoio parathrountai α kumata parolo pou o an8rwpos koimatai.

    Uparxoune 5 stadia upnou. Ta prwta 4 onomazontai NREM sleep (`Non-Rapid` Eye Movement) enw to 5o stadio pou einai k o paradojos upnos onomazetai REM sleep (Rapid Eye Movement - onomazetai etsi giati ta matia kinountai sunexeia `pera-dw8e` katw apo ta kleista blefara). Kata thn diarkeia tou upnou ta 5 stadia enallassontai metaju tous gurw stis `4-5` fores, me to REM sthn arxh na diarkei polu ligo (gurw sta `10-20` lepta), enw oso paei aujanetai se diarkeia me to teleutaio ligo prin jupnhsei na krataei gurw sthn 1 wra. To REM einai to pio shmantiko stadio tou upnou, ka8ws auto einai to pio anazwogonhtiko stadio, ka8ws k to stadio sto opoio blepei o an8rwpos oneira. Se auto to stadio exei pesei o muikos tonos plhrws, opote ama kapoios jupnhsei kata thn diarkeia autou tou stadiou den mporei na kounh8ei gia merika deuterolepta mexri na epanel8ei plhrws o muikos tonos.

    Uparxei mia polu klassikh periptwsh pou deixnei poso shmantikos einai o REM upnos gia thn yuxikh ugeia tou an8rwpou. Htane enas DJ sthn amerikh o opoios ekane ena mara8wnio radiofwniko gia kana 5hmero sunexomena apo to Times Square nomizw ths Neas Yorkhs. Sthn arxh htane ola ok, alla pros to telos arxise na exei parais8hseis, oti mphkane kapoioi na ton apagagoune, oti ebgaine fwtia apo to surtari tou kai diafora alla tetoia. Kai ola auta eixane metado8ei live ston aera k einai katagegrammena sta arxeia auths ths ekpomphs.

    Ta upnwtika prokaloune NREM upno, alla empodizoune ton REM upno, me apotelesma na exoune polles epiptwseis k parenergeies logw autou tou fainomenou. Ama kapoios sterh8ei ton REM upno, parolo pou mporei na exei NREM, den noiw8ei jekourastos otan jupnhsei. Ama omws meta tou epitrapei na exei REM upno, tote parathreitai oti o REM upnos prospa8ei na anaplhrwsei auto pou xa8hke, me apotelesma sunh8ws polu entona oneira k efialtes.

    Pantws to pedio tou upnou einai ena apo to pio skoteina k anejereunhta shmeia tou an8rwpinou egkefalou k mono 8ewries exoune anaptux8ei gia tis diafores leitourgies tou.
    "i speak without reservation from what i know and who i am. i do so with the understanding that all people should have the right to offer their voice to the chorus whether the result is harmony or dissonance, the worldsong is a colorless dirge without the differences that distinguish us,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Death
    Quote Originally Posted by silencerius
    Roxalizw mono otan eimai poly poly kourasmenos. Pote allote.

    to thema einai oti auto pou grafeis den exei sxesi me to problima pou ekanes quote. To pragma auto me pianei otan PAW na koimithw, stis arxes, otan me parei liigo o ypnos.. prin mpw se REM, pws na to pw

    ama me parei o ypnos meta den ksipnaw.
    o REM eiani synh8ws pros tis teleytaies wres tou ypnou...
    ap osa exw dei kai exw perasei exeis safestata agxwdh diataraxh pou sou bgainei toulaxiston ap osa les ston ypno.

    oi giatroi pou sou xreiazonte gia symboules AN 8ewreis pws einai problhma to sygkekrimeno kai prepei na to koita3eis (gia mena den einai apla xalarwse me kapoion tropo ap to ka8hmerino agxos) einai oi e3hs akolou8oi:

    neyrologos-psyxiatros
    pneymonologos

    ergasthrio ypnou yparxei sto aiginhteio kai sto swthria an 8es sou dinw kai thl
    den iksera gia to rem, apla ithela na tonisw ton xrono

    de kserw an einai problima. Ama yparxei ontws pithanotita thanatou, nai tote thelw na paw se giatro.

    eimai thessaloniki, exei tipota edw panw?

    "The island gives you what you need" - Locke


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