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    It's official:

    EU leaders sign new constitution


    European Union leaders have signed the new EU constitution in a lavish ceremony held in Rome.
    Heads of state and government took it in turn to sign the text in the same room where the Treaty of Rome was signed to establish the EU in 1957.

    The ceremony comes amid a row about the views of prospective Italian EU commissioner Rocco Buttiglione.

    Incoming President Jose Manuel Barroso has withdrawn his entire proposed team and has hinted he may make changes.

    A devout Catholic, Mr Buttiglione has been scorned by MEPs unhappy at his views on homosexuality and the role of women in society.

    Also present at the ceremony were the leaders of Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey and Croatia - the four countries candidates to joining the EU.

    The signing ceremony was held in the Renaissance splendour of the Campidoglio, the city hall inspired by Michelangelo in the centre of the capital's historic district.

    Up to 7,000 police and security forces are on Rome's streets to protect EU leaders, while a squadron of F-16 fighters were enforcing a no-fly zone over the city centre.

    Mr Barroso said in a speech before the signing that the EU constitution would give birth to a "more democratic union", and urged the 25 member-states to ratify it without delay.

    "I hope that tomorrow the national parliaments and European citizens will take responsibilities and approve this constitution, opening the way to a new union."

    "More than ever, we now need perseverance, an unfailing will and total confidence in the future in order to overcome the challenges faced by the European Union."

    Mr Barroso is expected to hold informal talks with EU leaders during the ceremonies to seek support for his planned changes to the commission, correspondents say.

    Euro votes

    Despite the signing of the constitution, member nations still have to ratify the document individually before it comes into effect - either by referendum or parliamentary vote.

    A number of countries, including France and the UK, will hold public votes, with the first vote expected to take place in Spain in February.

    On Friday, UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said a referendum on the EU constitution in the UK would take place "early in 2006" if the ruling Labour Party won a third term in office.

    There is intense scepticism in the UK, while the outcome of the French vote is by no means certain, says the BBC's Tim Franks in Rome.

    The constitution intends to make the union function more smoothly.

    But plans for an EU president overseeing the co-operation between member states, and a change in the voting system, have caused divisions in EU states.

    The new treaty also sees a big expansion in the number of policy areas where countries will lose their national veto, and includes the creation of a foreign minister's post.

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    Ελπίζω και στην Ελλάδα να κάνουμε δημοψήφισμα για το ευρωπαϊκό Σύνταγμα, όπως θα γίνει σε άλλες χώρες.

    Δεν το έχω διαβάσει ακόμη, αλλά δε πρέπει να έχει μεταφραστεί έτσι κι αλλιώς. Γενικώς, πάντως, ήταν κάτι απαραίτητο.
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    Έχω Αθήνα το προσχέδιο του Συντάγματος. Έχει μεταφραστεί σε όλες τις ευρωπαϊκές γλώσσες. Νομίζω είναι ψιλο-αδιανόητο να μην έχει μεταφραστεί και στο Σύνταγμα.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Painless
    Έχω Αθήνα το προσχέδιο του Συντάγματος. Έχει μεταφραστεί σε όλες τις ευρωπαϊκές γλώσσες. Νομίζω είναι ψιλο-αδιανόητο να μην έχει μεταφραστεί και στο Σύνταγμα.
    Dunno, έτσι διάβασα τώρα στο site της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης. Προφανώς δεν ενημερώνεται όσο συχνά πρέπει.
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    Den prokeitai na yiotheththei opotes prowrh h xara. Tha to petaksoyn eksw sta perissotera dhmopshfismata, oi Aggloi for one.

    (love the avatar, btw)
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    @Gabriel_ let us reflect That was the spirit \m/ Ποια χαρά;
    Από την άλλη, μέσα στα Χριστούγεννα θα κάτσω να το διαβάσω όσο γίνεται πιο προσεκτικά γιατί δεν ξέρω, στην πράξη ίσως δρομολογεί αλλαγές αυτή η ιστορία, έστω κι αν όντως η απόσταση μέχρι την "εφαρμογή" είναι τεράστια (και αμφίβολη).
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    Parte to xampari, oti kai na ginei, oti kai na kanoume/kanoune patna 8a mas gamane xwris salio, so why bother?
    Ravel: There is no room for '2' in the world of 1's and 0's, no place for 'mayhap' in a house of trues and falses, and no 'green with envy' in a black and white world.

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    ...ok, λέω να μην αναφερθούμε ξανά σε παρόμοιο θέμα γιατί πάντα θα μας γαμάνε. Apathy murders hope ρε, που λένε και οι Acid Death
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    Αυτό που λέει η Κατερίνα. Μας γαμάνε γιατί τα θέλει ο κώλος μας.
    ηθικές απομειώσεις

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    Oxi mas gamane epeidh eimaste ta skulakia tous apo to '45 kai meta. Kai h "kakia" Germania pou gamhse thn Eurwph exei ploutisei apo thn baria biomhxania pou den ths epetrepsan meta thn sundiaskepsh ths Gialtas na apokthsei pote.

    asdsdfsdafsadf
    Ravel: There is no room for '2' in the world of 1's and 0's, no place for 'mayhap' in a house of trues and falses, and no 'green with envy' in a black and white world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Painless
    @Gabriel_ let us reflect That was the spirit \m/ Ποια χαρά;
    Από την άλλη, μέσα στα Χριστούγεννα θα κάτσω να το διαβάσω όσο γίνεται πιο προσεκτικά γιατί δεν ξέρω, στην πράξη ίσως δρομολογεί αλλαγές αυτή η ιστορία, έστω κι αν όντως η απόσταση μέχρι την "εφαρμογή" είναι τεράστια (και αμφίβολη).


    De tha yparksei efarmogh, agaphth moy, kai an thes thn apopsh moy tha elega oti pali kala, giati kati mesa moy (poy tsoylaei perissotero pros to aisthhma kai ligotero pros thn emperistatwmenh topothethsh) leei oti biasthkan poly. Kai synexizoyni na biazontai. Megalh koybenta.

    Timh soy, btw, poy tha to diabaseis (esy, o Deggial kai opoios allos) alla dystyxws tha eisaste apo toys elaxistoys ws statistika amelhteoys. Mhn to pareis gia kati parapanw apo ayto poy eipa kai moy thn peis gia apatheia kai moirolatreia kai ola aya. Ennow apla ayto: timh sas, alla krima poy eiste ligoi.
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    Yeh, φαντάζομαι ότι δε θα εφαρμοστεί ποτέ. Πολύ media-κό κακό για το τίποτα. Το περί ανάγνωσης το ανέφερα γιατί πήγα να πω "εντάξει, και να εφαρμοζόταν δε θα άλλαζε τίποτα", αλλά και πάλι, στα ψιλά κρύβονται τα χοντρά, οπότε... anyway, πολύ χαίρομαι που τουλάχιστον δεν περνάει αυτή η ουτοπική ιδέα κάποιων περί Ηνωμένων Πολιτειών της Ευρώπης κι από την άλλη πολύ λυπάμαι που όπως και να 'χει κάποιοι θα συνεχίσουν να τρώνε λεφτά σε ταξιδάκια Στρασβούργο-Βρυξέλλες-Στρασβούργο και βίλες και δεξιώσεις για τους δημοσιογράφους.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Painless
    κάποιοι θα συνεχίσουν να τρώνε λεφτά σε ταξιδάκια Στρασβούργο-Βρυξέλλες-Στρασβούργο και βίλες και δεξιώσεις για τους δημοσιογράφους.
    Goes with the territory. (an kai to administrative kommati ths EE einai yper toy deontos corrupt kai grafeiokratiko)

    Poly biazontai omws. Poly.
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