Δύο αιώνες μετά την σταύρωση, παρεπιπτόντως.Originally Posted by wraithmare
Δύο αιώνες μετά την σταύρωση, παρεπιπτόντως.
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Oi 4 eyaggelistes zhsane 200 xronia + ekastos ?Δύο αιώνες μετά την σταύρωση, παρεπιπτόντως.
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Όχι, αλλά τα Ευαγγέλια γράφτηκαν πράγματι δυο αιώνες μετά τη σταύρωση του Χριστού, προφανώς όχι απ'τους ίδιους τους ευαγγελιστές. Τουλάχιστον έτσι πιστεύουν οι σύγχρονοι ιστορικοί και παραδέχονται αρκετά μορφωμένα μέλη της Εκκλησίας. Υποτίθεται πως η προφορική παράδοση των ευαγγελιστών διατηρήθηκε έως τότε.
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Pisteyeis pragmatika oti h Apokalypsh tou Iwannh (p.x.) ginotan na diatirithei mesw mono proforikou logou gia 200 xronia?
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL OR UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE. YOU'RE THE SAME DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER AS EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE THE ALL-SINGING, ALL-DANCING CRAP OF THE WORLD.
HIPPIE METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL
O xristianismos vasizetai stis prakseis twn apostolwn, kathws auta pou exei pei o xristos einai ligo polyploka se nohma gia to iq twn ermhneutwn tou. O Xristos px milaei gia "sarka mia" otan anaferetai sthn enwsh andra kai gynaikas kai o Petros proteinei na mhn aggizoume thn gynaika. O Xristos de stamataei na leei oti h "Basileia twn Ouranwn" einai sthn diarkeia ths zwhs mas kai oloi perimenoun thn epomenh zwh kai ton "paradeiso". Na mhn onomazoume me ton titlo tou "patera" kanena mas parotrynei epishs, kai kata periergo tropo oloi oi iereis feroun ton titlo me kamari. Ta pio shmantika shmeia tou "Xristos <> Xristianismos" einai auta pisteuw.
Nai mono pou to thema einai oti afou les ayta (sta perissotera apo ta opoia symfwnw), DEN mporeis na apokaleseis ta logia apostolwn mono (kai oxi ayta tou Xristou), ws "xristianismo" . Ayta einai h "Ekklhsia" pou eipa sto Xristianismos <> Ekklhsia.
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL OR UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE. YOU'RE THE SAME DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER AS EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE THE ALL-SINGING, ALL-DANCING CRAP OF THE WORLD.
HIPPIE METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL
P.x.o apostolos Paulos eixe grapsei diafores malakies (ews kai antifaseis me ta logia tou Xristou). Tha dexteis ayta ws xristianismo? Ayth einai h vash ths Ekklhsias (kai h vash ths opoias ypokrisias kai dedomenhs antifashs pou exei h episimh Ekklhsia me oti eipe o Xristos)
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL OR UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE. YOU'RE THE SAME DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER AS EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE THE ALL-SINGING, ALL-DANCING CRAP OF THE WORLD.
HIPPIE METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL
Δε γνωρίζω για την Αποκάλυψη του Ιωάννη, ωστόσο η σύγχρονη άποψη γι τα 4 Ευαγγέλια είναι η παραπάνω. Και δεν είναι καθόλου αντιρεαλιστική.
Ένα πάρα πολύ καλό παράδειγμα είναι τα Ομηρικά Έπη, των οποίων η έγγραφη μορφή απέχει πολλούς αιώνες απ'την προφορική τους. Όπως είναι φυσικό, υπάρχουν αλλοιώσεις μέσα σε αυτούς τους αιώνες, ωστόσο είναι ένα έργο που διατηρήθηκε μέσω αυτής της μορφής.
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Den exei shmasia ti tha dextw egw, efoson h Ekklhsia einai o epishmos foreas tou xristianismou, auth orizei to ti einai xristianismos. H Ekklhsia protima na akolouthei ton Paulo kai oxi ton Xristo. O anwteros logos tou Xristou pantws eksakolouthei na einai "aspida" gia thn Ekklhsia, toulaxiston oso den ton ermhneuei kanenas opws prepei...P.x.o apostolos Paulos eixe grapsei diafores malakies (ews kai antifaseis me ta logia tou Xristou). Tha dexteis ayta ws xristianismo?
Ma ayto pou lew einai oti h Ekklhsia telika DEN einai foreas tou Xristianismou. Mporei na THEOREITAI pws einai, alla epi ths ousias DEN einai. An den exei shmasia ti tha dexteis esy, tote ti exei?
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL OR UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE. YOU'RE THE SAME DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER AS EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE THE ALL-SINGING, ALL-DANCING CRAP OF THE WORLD.
HIPPIE METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL
Buddy, ti einai ayta poy les, agaphte?
Oysiastika les oti o Apostolos Paylos (ta monadika grafwmena toy opoioy swzontai sta Eyaggelia, poy ta egrapse kapoios tritos) antifaskei me ta legomena toy Ihsoy (monadikes katatheseis twn opoiwn EPISHS swzontai apokleistika sta Eyaggelia poy egrapse enas tritos APO ta diaswzomena grafomena kapoioy Apostoloy in the first place!!!!). Akoma kai an paradexthoyme (for the sake of the argument, dhladh) oti ta Eyaggelia sth morfh poy diaswzontai ta egrapsan oi idioi oi Eyaggelistes, to gegonos paramenei oti ayta poy nomizeis esy ws logia toy Ihsoy einai ta logia kapoioy apo toys Eyaggelistes poy nomizeis oti antifaskoyn.
Ap'oso gnwrizw o Jesus den eixe dwsei synenteykseis.
Moy fainetai oti o Ap.Paylos an antifaskei, den einai o monos.E, Buddy, buddy?
Filia
Edit: Poy sthn telikh twn telikwn, aporw an yphrxan (ws istorika proswpa kai mono) kai o Paylos kai o Jesus, kai genika th Biblo thn exw ws:
- Palaia Diathhkh: Hmieyxaristh mythologia xamhlwn aksiwsewn.
- Kainh Diathhkh: Apla ekneyrismos ekei. Tipota allo.
You know you're in for a good time when there's a polar bear - bleeding - on the label.
Ma to ti dexetai h pleiopshfia fysikaAn den exei shmasia ti tha dexteis esy, tote ti exei?
Ksanadiavse to post sou, kai an mporeis esy na vgaleis nohma, ginomai eyaggelisths.Oysiastika les oti o Apostolos Paylos (ta monadika grafwmena toy opoioy swzontai sta Eyaggelia, poy ta egrapse kapoios tritos) antifaskei me ta legomena toy Ihsoy (monadikes katatheseis twn opoiwn EPISHS swzontai apokleistika sta Eyaggelia poy egrapse enas tritos APO ta diaswzomena grafomena kapoioy Apostoloy in the first place!!!!). Akoma kai an paradexthoyme (for the sake of the argument, dhladh) oti ta Eyaggelia sth morfh poy diaswzontai ta egrapsan oi idioi oi Eyaggelistes, to gegonos paramenei oti ayta poy nomizeis esy ws logia toy Ihsoy einai ta logia kapoioy apo toys Eyaggelistes poy nomizeis oti antifaskoyn.
O apostolos Paulos EGRAPSE (tis epistoles, epistoles pros korinthious, pros ton enan, ton allo klp). Den egrapse kaneis allos ta tou Paulou. Ok?
Treis apo tous 4 euaggelistes, htan mathites tou Xristou. Mporeis na kaneis ton diaxwrismo anamesa stis epistoles tou Paulou (oi opoies antifaskoun me ta logia tou Xristou), kai stis didaxes tou Xristou opws tis egrapsan oi eyaggelistes. Mporeis na diaxwriseis thn proswpikh gnwmh (pou ayth antifaskei me ta legomena tou Xristou) tou Paulou, apo thn katagrafh twn legomenwn apo tous eyaggelistes? Ti akrivws den katalaveS se osa eipa?
Epishs les diafora astoxa sto post sou (oi epistoles tou Paulou den einai sta eyaggelia), kai tha mporousa pali na synopsisw osa les se ena "les MALAKIES" opws ayto :pou apla den vgazoun nohma.ta monadika grafwmena toy opoioy swzontai sta Eyaggelia, poy ta egrapse kapoios tritos)"
'h ayto
Oi eyaggelistes meteferan sto xarti osa eipe o Xristos. Oi (graptes) APOPSEIS tou Paulou antifaskoun. 1+1 = 2oti ayta poy nomizeis esy ws logia toy Ihsoy einai ta logia kapoioy apo toys Eyaggelistes poy nomizeis oti antifaskoyn.
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL OR UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE. YOU'RE THE SAME DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER AS EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE THE ALL-SINGING, ALL-DANCING CRAP OF THE WORLD.
HIPPIE METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL
Exeis dikio.
You know you're in for a good time when there's a polar bear - bleeding - on the label.
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stamata epitelous tote na les MALAKIES
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL OR UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE. YOU'RE THE SAME DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER AS EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU ARE THE ALL-SINGING, ALL-DANCING CRAP OF THE WORLD.
HIPPIE METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL
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