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    ...Kai oxi gia na ta arpaxeis...
    and light it up forever, and never go to sleep

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    oxi oxi o fix einai i8iko atomo......
    I swear on tomorrow, if you take this chance
    Our lives are this moment, the music - the dance
    And here in this labyrinth of lost mysteries
    I close my eyes on this night and you're all that I see

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    Koita, borei na petao ena soro malakies, alla na ta arpaxo apokleietai, eimai polu thuma gia na kano kati tetoio.... alloste gi auto de tha gino pote kathigitis. Tha pao kalutera na anoixo souvlatzidiko.

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    Thes synaitero gia to souvlatzidiko?
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    de lew oti de ftaiw kai gw alla kaia auta einai poly symantika pou eipa,ase bebaia th poustia ths poustias me ta kommatika "autos einai dikos mas perase ton"
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    gamw to systhma

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    loipon... poso plaka exei merikes fores h paraplhroforhsh...
    Prwton den zhtane 20 % aukshsh, zhtane 8 % kai ta epidomata na mpoun sto mistho tous.
    Deuteron sta aithmata tous EKTOS apo to misthologiko uparxei kai to nomosxedio AKSIOLOGHSHS pou profanws elaxistoi to kserete alla tha pshfistei autes tis meres opou ta panepisthmia tha aksiologounte me vash to PARAGWGIKO TOUS ERGO ston tomesa profanws ths VIOMHXANIAS kai twn IDIWTIKWN epixeirhsewn... me liga logia, an px o tomeas ths astrofusikhs den paragei ergo pou na ferei lefta se enan tomea, tote h tha kleisei o tomeas h tha anadiamorfwthei etsi wste na einai prositos gia mia epixeirhsh...outws h allos, sta paparia tous h gnwsh h h episthmh, ta fragka exoun shmasia. Egw proswpika den goustarw gieni h sxolh mou apo 4 , 3 xronia, na mou kopsoun mathimata epeidh den einai "paragwgika" na kanw kai 2 xronia eidikeushs ( master ) gia na mpw sthn kreatomhxanh kai na paragw xrhmata gia kapoion idiotiko tomea. Eimai apo autous - isws ilithious - pou exoume kapoia oneira kai pisteuoume se kapoia pragmata me ta opoia oneireuomaste kai porwnomaste.
    Triton to panepisthmio DEN mporei na diaxeiristei thn TERASTIA periousia pou exei , dioti h kuvernhsh apofasizei pote kai pws tha thn diaxeiristei...gia auto kai einia kai imiautonomos paragontas.
    Tetarton , oi kathigites pou zhtane aukshsh einai sths pleiopshfia tous melh tou DEP ( ereunitiko proswpiko ). Ta lefta den einai gia na paroun kainourgio amaksaki sthn gkomena...rwthste poso exei mia dhmosieush ergasias se kapoio periodiko ( opws to Science px ) h poso exei h summetoxh se kapoio seminario kai meta ta ksanaleme.
    Ta panepisthmia einai KAI ereunitika kentra ( ta perissotera ). To kserete oti ta fragka gia px sunthrhsh enos ergasthriou h gia ta organa kai gia polla alla pragmata den ta vazei h kuvernhsh h to panepisthmio ( oxi panta ) alla kathightes ? Ta idia ginontai KAI ston Dimokrito. Akomh na prosthesw oti ta ereunitika programmata ths Eurwphs ( poso mallon kai ths Elladas ) sunexws meiononte mias kai to olo susthma odhgeite sthn ekmetaleush twn panepistimiwn apo idiotikous tomeis ( idou h aksiologhsh ) .
    Akomh h apoxh sunexizete mias kai h kuvernhsh einai YPOSXETHEI thn diafthethsh tou zhthmatos ton Aprilh pou mas perase...gia auto kai pia apaitoun ta melh ths POSDEP ( kai den zhtoun ) thn paraithsh tou Euthumiou apo Yp. Paideias.
    Kai nai... oi perissoteroi kathigites shmera isws na mhn einai kathigites... kai nai , mas ekmetaleuonte me ton xeiristo tropo ( mhn ksexnate oti kathe apergia tha exei mia epivarunsh gia kapoia omada anthrwpwn...an anagkasteite pote kai eseis na kanete apergia , kapoious tha parete sto laimo sas ). Oxi, den lew oti exoun apoluta dikio. ALLA yparxoun polles opseis diaforetikwn nomismatwn kai oi perissoteroi koitate to " poso malakes einai oi kathigites " . Ta upoloipa peri aksiologhshs klp , peri tou ti exei kanei h kuvernhsh sthn Paideia ( pou paradoksos to susthma paideias sthn Ellada , erxete 3o kalutero sthn Eurwph meta ths Gallias kia ths Germanias - me xeirotera auta ths Italias kai ths Agglias kai an thelte meta xaras mporw na sas pw kai na sas analusw to ti gnwsh dinei to ellhniko panepisthmio se sxesh me alla tou ekswterikou giati to exw psaksei arketa to thema , se orismenous tomeis tou ). Den pernw to meros twn kathigitwn oute lew " koita tous kakomoirhdes " giati o misthos tous kathigith einai 3.906 euro ( an thumamai kala ). Apla parathetw kapoia pragmata giati vlepw arketh hmimatheia sto thema ( Painless, phges pote se AEI gia na ksereis pws einai ta pragmata h milas me vash auta pou akous ? kai den se rwtaw oute eirwnika oute epithetika ). Ta pragmata shmera sthn Anwtath Ekpeideush pane kata diaolou se pollous tomeis kai to thema twn kathightwn einai ENA apo auta... alitheia, peri sumfwnias ths Bolonia exete akousei ? ta 3 + 2 eth kserete ti einai ?
    Kai ta komatoskula profanws den tha kanoun tpt...alla an to mono pou sas endiaferei einai to pws tha parete to xartaki - ptuxeio sas kai pws tha vreite mia doulitsa kai sta arxideia sas ola ta upoloipa , tote mallon ta parapanw tha einai kai auta sta arxidia sas ( opote mhn exete provlhma kai an oi kathigites ekei sas grafoun, giati kai eseis ekei tous grafete. ) An sas endiaferei kati parapanw tote koitaxte oi apopseis sas kai h kritikh sas na einai antikeimenikh kai na exete parakolouthisei kapoia pragmata kai na mhn lete auta pou akoute apo allous h auta pou leei h malakismenh thleorash.
    Assumptions:

    1. Mathematics is the language of nature
    2. Everything around is can be represented and understood by numbers
    3. If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge

    Evidence:

    1. The cycling of disease epidemics
    2. The wax and wan of caribou populations
    3. Sunspot cycles
    4. The rise and fall of the Nile River

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    xwris pare3hghsh alla mhpws kapoios apo tous goneis sou einai ka8hghths?

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    Carcass, egrapses.

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    elpizw to ma8hmatiko na mh 8ewreitai paragwgiko kai na ginei ena xrono kai na perasw 5 ma8hmata na parw ptyxio
    Γιατί δε με θες κυρά μου; Επειδή είμαι ψαράς;

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    Carcass_ koita swsta ayta pou les, alla sth telikh sto diko sou tmhma apanta nai 'h ou, ekmetalleyontai oi kathigites thn parousa katastash gia na yparksoun megalyteres pieseis sth kybernhsh? Kai to kanoun ayto ENSYNEIDHTA? Dhladh emeis ti eimaste? Kai me poio dikaiwma mpainoume emeis, oi foithtes, toso oi energoi, oso kai oi ligotero energoi se ayto to kykewna sygkrousewn, enw emeis apla theloume na paroume ena ptyxio?

    btw arxika 20% zhtousan, twra to meiwsan...

    paraplhroforhsh panta tha yparxei kai ypo mia ennoia ta panta einai paraplhroforhsh... allo thema ayto bebaia. Oi plhrofories synexws allazoun kai ola einai dynamika... ayto pou xtes htan swsto shmera einai lathos.

    Pantws aneferes to thema 3+2, emena proswpika den me endiaferei, dhladh den exw kathisei na to analysw dieksodika alla mou fainetai san ypobathmish ptyxiou pou kai kala gia na mhn xathei h aiglh tou kanoun ta 2 xronia master... Kai ayta pou les gia ekpaideytiko systhma... ola ayta basizontai se deiktes, kai dystyxws h pragmatikothta einai poly diaforetikh apo ena graph bar se ena kommati xarti... Mporei na yparxei kat'ese mia poiothta ekpaideyshs, kai ayto to dexomai, dhladh NAI ama diabaseis pragmatika mporeis na pareis gnwseis, alla pote egw proswpika den eniwsa oti briskomai se ena periballon... na to pw episthmoniko? Tha akoustei asteio alla etsi einai...

    Tespa, mataioths mataiothtwn, ta panta mataioths...

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    H paideia den mporei simera pleon na einai dwrean. An prepei na orthopodisei to systima, prepei na ginoun allages ksekinwntas apo tin katargisi twn dwrean vivliwn kai pigainontas sta ypotipwdi didaktra. Kai prin pesete na me fate, skefteite, pws dyskola tha eksygianthei alliws (kai oxi, o mpampas mou den einai o Kokkalis)
    Vielen Dank für alles was mal war

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    Vasika, oxi kaneis apo tous goneis mou den einai kathighths. Kai nai, thewrw malakismenh thn sumperifora twn kathigitwn...kai oxi mono epeidh mas ekmetaleuonte alla kai epeidh ta mounopana den kanoun APERGIA alla APOXH ( dio teleiws diaforetika pragmata, sthn apoxh den douleueis kai plhrwnese enw sthn apergia den douleueis kai den plhrwnese ). Sun oti exw xasei 2 diples eksetastikes kai mia therinh.
    Ta parapanw ta egrapsa oxi gia na uposthriksw tous kathigites alla se mia tetoia suzhthsh kalo einai na uparxei antikeimenikh kritikh kai oxi " einai oloi mounopana " giati auto legete giouxarisma kai oxi suzhthsh.
    Epitharmon diafwnw mazi sou kai tha sou pw kai giati... Shmera den uparxei paideia, uparxei EKPEUDEUSH. Se mathenoun kapoia pragmata apo mikro wste na se vgaloun kateuthian sthn paragwgh. Shmera to sxoleio einai apla gia ton poutso ( an kai oi gnwseis pou sou dinei se sxesh me ta sxoleia tou ekswterikou einai allou epipedou ) giati se vazoun na diavazeis san ton malaka kai sou lene " e, prepei na dwseis eksetaseis " . H idiotikopoihsh twn pragmatwn auto to kanei akoma xeirotero. O idiotikos tomeas den ton endiaferei na pareis paideia, ton endiaferei na tou ferneis lefta. Kai etsi einai. Opws einai kai me ta idiotika panepisthmia sto ekswteriko.Kai sthn telikh o idiotikos tomeas tpt den phge mprosta. Ton idiotiko tomea px den ton endiaferei an ksereis eidikh sxetikothta h an exeis mualo kai gnwsh na odhghseis sthn enopoihsh neutwnias kai kvantikhs varuthtas profanws, ton endiaferei na ekmetaleutei tis praktikes sou gnwseis gia na vgalei fragka.Kai logiko einai, apo th stigmh pou einai idiotikos...oxi pws ta kratika einai kala, skata einai alla toulaxiston an htan ugieis mhxanismoi tha aposkopousan sto na ofelithei h idia h koinwnia, profanws. Ta pragmata den einai etsi shmera, opws eipa oi kratikoi mhxanismoi einai skata gia apeirous logous kai gia auto odhgeite olo to pragma sthn idiotikopoihsh kai ginete akoma pio skata. Sthn Agglia mia xara idiotika einai kai par'ola auta to susthma tous einai 1000 fores xeirotero apo to diko mas ( px 7o se seira panepisthmio sths Oualia kaneis puthagoreio thewrhma sto deutero etos...opws to kaname emeis sto sxoleio...). Milas gia katarghsh dwrean vivliwn. Mega lathos . Dld an kapoios den exei lefta, den tha mporei na paei sto panepisthmio, den tha mporei na parei vivlia klp ? Giati ? to thewreis dikaio ? H mhpws allazei thn poiothta tou vivliou ? Giati oi kathigites pou ta grafoun h ta metafrazoun ta idia lefta tha pernoun...
    Na shmeiwsw oti ta epidomata einai 2 : epidoma " didaktikhs proetoimasias" kai epidoma " Ereunitiko ".
    Phoebus, nai h pragmatikothta einai diaforetikh den diafwnw, sto thema twn panepisthmiwn. Px to fusiko krhths to vgazoun oti einai aristo giati peftoun lefta ekei...alla exei plaka giati se emas sthn athina , an kai den exoume ergasthriakh upodomh , oute organwsh kai polla alla, ta mathimata mas kai pio duskola einai kai se megalutero vathos ta kanoume kai perissotera einai...opote to " kalo" einia sxetiko...kai auto to paradeigma dixnei tou ti tha mporouse na sumvei me thn aksiologhsh twn panepistimiwn.
    Shmasia exei na goustareis ekei pou eisai. Px o Dragonlord den goustarei ( kai kala kanei kai den goustarei ) gia auto kai den ton endiaferei h sxolh tou. Alla filarako kalo tha htan na kaneis kati allo giati xaramizeis ta xronia sou se kati pou den se endiaferei ( kai ksereis oti to lew filika ). Kai dusthxws etsi einai to kwlosusthma pou telika h pleiopsifia twn atomwn kataligoun na mpooun se sxoles pou den tous endiaferoun kia den kanoun pragmatika auto pou theloun ( kai den milaw gia mellontikes douleies klp, alla na spoudasoun auto pou pragmatika theloun na spoudasoun ) h alloi pane gia oikonomika epeidh thewroun oti ekei exei lefta...kai meta h ta paratane h ginete kolash mexri na paroun ptuxeio.
    To olo thema gia to panepisthmio einai arketa megalo, giati ksekinaei apo to mhxanografiko pou tha kanei kapoios, mexri th douleia pou tha mporesei na vrei meta...
    Assumptions:

    1. Mathematics is the language of nature
    2. Everything around is can be represented and understood by numbers
    3. If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge

    Evidence:

    1. The cycling of disease epidemics
    2. The wax and wan of caribou populations
    3. Sunspot cycles
    4. The rise and fall of the Nile River

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    Και μόνο η ιδέα της αποχής είναι αρκετή για να δημιουργεί αρνητική στάση απέναντι στους καθηγητές. Αυτοί δεν χάνουν τίποτα, ενώ εμείς πολλά (κυρίως οι εξ επαρχείας συμφοιτητές μας). Επίσης όταν εμείς στο μέλλον αποφασίσουμε να διαμαρτυρηθούμε για τα δικαιώματά μας, δεν νομίζω να πληρωνόμαστε ό,τι δουλειά και να κάνουμε.
    Σε ότι αφορά τις πέραν των οικονομικών διεκδικήσεις, πιστευω πως θα ήταν τουλάχιστον έντιμο από μεριά τους αν είχαν ενημερώσει εμάς τους φοιτητές για αυτές. Τουλάχιστον έτσι θα ξέραμε πως δεν χάνουμε εξεταστικές για να πάρουν κάποια ευρώ παραπάνω.
    Σε ό,τι αφορα το ποιος πληρώνει για το ερευνητικό έργο του εκάστωτε πανεπιστημίου, τουλάχιστον στο δικό μου δεν το πληρώνουν οι καθηγητές, βασικά μερικές φορές δεν το πληρώνει κανείς, αλλά αυτό είναι μια άλλη ιστορία, ε;
    Η ιδιωτική πανεπιστημιακή εκπαίδευση είναι για μένα κάτι χαζό. Γιατί τα πανεπιστήμια θα έπρεπε πρώτα να είναι ερευνητικά κέντρα και μετά εκπαιδευτικά ιδρύματα. ’λλωστε στα πανεπιστήμια, μαθαίνεις επιστήμη και όχι επάγγελμα, για επάγγελμα πας σε κάποιο ιδιωτικό ΙΕΚ. Αν μπει ιδιώτης στην πανεπιστημιακή εκπαίδευση πιστεύω πως θα χαθεί και αυτή η ψευδαίσθηση του ότι γίνεσαι επιστήμονας.

    ΥΓ: δεν ξαναδιάβασα ό,τι έγραψα, είναι πιθανό να έχω γράψει κάτι ακαταλαβίστικο, ζητώ ταπεινά συγνώμη.

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    Gia osous endiaferonte , deite to parakatw gia to kostologio dhmosieushs sto periodiko Apj : http://aas.nao.ac.jp/ApJ/pagecharges.html
    Assumptions:

    1. Mathematics is the language of nature
    2. Everything around is can be represented and understood by numbers
    3. If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge

    Evidence:

    1. The cycling of disease epidemics
    2. The wax and wan of caribou populations
    3. Sunspot cycles
    4. The rise and fall of the Nile River

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    I got drunk and I stayed all day.

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