2h fora panellhnies / 10% / metagrafes / 3h fora kai loipa..

eixate tetoies empeiries?

na min perasete sti sxolh/polh pou thelate me thn prwth opote na ksanakanete mhxanografiko gia 10% H na zhthsete metagrafh? H sthn periptwsh pou den ginotan kati tetoio H pou apla den perasate pouthena na dwsete 2h fora panellhnies? H parapanw...

rwtaw giati profanws me afora proswpika to thema... eimai prwtoeths sta TEI plhrofikhs hrakleiou kai twra, pros to telos tou xronou syniditopoiw pws den pernaw kala... den einai h sxolh to provlima alla mallon oi parees, o kosmos kai h polh... mallon kai to oti exw zhsei olh mou th zwh sthn krhth opote thelw na ksefygw epitelous... ektos autou h syntriptikh pleiopshfia twn symfoititwn mou einai gidia kai entelws adiaforoi enw 1-2 endiaferonta atoma pou gnwrisa (apo allh sxolh) exoun hdh kanei aithseis gia metagrafh sthn athina...

opote skeftika pws kalytera na fygw twra k na kopiasw ena xrono diavazontas ksana gia panellhnies para meta apo 4 xronia na niwsw pws phge xamenos olos autos o xronos sto hrakleio... outws H allws den exw perasei kai tpt wste na pw "adika tha panw ta mathimata pou perasa"... kai fovamai pws an meinw allo ena xrono edw tha skeftomai "panellhnies? pou na trexeis twra......"....

apoti fenetai to epomeno mhxanografiko mou tha periexei monaxa sxoles tis athinas... (kai mallon mono AEI, an einai na ksanadwsw toulaxiston as to kanw kala)

genika sta paparia sas alla me apasxolei poly auto to thema opote tha hthela na akousw kai alles apopseis...

auta.

Μην είσαι βλάκας,βάλε και ΤΕΙ και στην τελική μην πας.Πάντως από το να μείνεις σε ΤΕΙ του Ηρακλείου,καλύτερα ΤΕΙ Αθήνας.

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eixate tetoies empeiries?
den einai h sxolh to provlima alla mallon oi parees, o kosmos kai h polh...

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Για τον ίδιο λόγο έφυγα κι εγώ απ'το Ηράκλειο... πήρα μεταγραφή για Αθήνα.

Τέσπα, πρώτη χρονιά ήμουν Χημικός Μηχανικός στο ΕΜΠ, δε μου άρεσε και ξανάδωσα πανελλήνιες, μετά το τέλος του 1ου εξαμήνου, δηλαδή ξεκίνησα φροντιστήριο και διάβασμα ξανά απ'τις αρχές Μαρτίου. Τη δεύτερη φορά σαφώς είναι ευκολότερο να δώσεις, αρκεί να μην αγχώνεσαι. Σε περίπτωση αποτυχίας, έτσι κι αλλιώς, μένεις εκεί που είσαι. Την ίδια δουλειά έκανε και ο αδερφός μου (είχε περάσει Υλικά Πάτρα και τελικώς κατέληξε πολιτικός μηχανικός Θεσαλλονίκη).

Ε, άμα βαρεθώ κι εδώ που είμαι, θα δώσω κατατακτήριες για καμιά φιλοσοφική :P

Το 10% είναι για περίπτωση που σκέφτεται κανείς "Καλά είμαι εδώ, αλλά ας το βάλω μωρέ μπας και πάω κάπου ελαφρώς καλύτερα".

καλό είναι να ξεκολλήσεις για μερικά χρόνια από εκεί που μένεις, για να δεις και κάτι διαφορετικό...

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καλό είναι να ξεκολλήσεις για μερικά χρόνια από εκεί που μένεις, για να δεις και κάτι διαφορετικό...

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Symfwnw, eixa perasei krhth, edwsa ksana kai perasa athina kai twra trabaw ta mallia mou :)

Ekana sto telos tou protou etous alla den perasa pouthena.An ekana sto deutero etos tha pernaga efarmosmena Mathimatika Hrakleio kai eukola tha mporousa na parw metagrafi gia athina (exw dikaiologitika).Alla den ekana.Ama eisai gademis eisai.

pantws kane aithsh gia metagrafh... an oxi athina kane kapou allou... mhn nomizeis pantws oti tha breis mia kalh katastash edw athens.

ola einai ypergamhmena, sthn krhth px pou oloi eiste metrhmenoi, edw einai ametrhtoi, h polykosmia stis sxoles exei dhmiourghsei fobera problhmata, megalytero twn opoiwn imho oi listes anamonhs sta ergasthria... twra to an thes na ksefygeis, na zhseis mia foititikh zwh ktl... kai pali h athina den einai to katallhlo meros... h athina... einai terastia... kai ama den exeis kai amaksi... pou kai na exeis... gamhse ta.


ase pou einai kai panakribh opote na to exeis kai ayto sto nou sou.

Ela Patra na gelame.

athens psilo sux cox xanesai oi apostaseis megales etc (apo apopsh koinwnikhs zwhs lew mhn me pare3hghsete).

Se mia poio mikrh polh einia poio wraia gia arxh etc ..

Dragonlord, I will.

Deggial, an den kanw lathos eisai sthn sxolh pou thelw na perasw opote auto pou les mou dinei elpides... dld oti se toso mikro xroniko diasthma prolaves kai diavases arketa gia mia toso ypshlovathmh sxolh. skopevw na ksekinisw to diavasma apo auto to kalokairi gia na dwsw ton epomeno iounh opote ok, elpizw na kataferw... kai nai, to hrakleio einai moufa...

Phoebus k' IrDa, ta kserw ola auta alla exw zhsei olh mou thn zwh sthn eparxia kai den tha me xalage kai poly na dw kai ligh apo thn polykosmia pou anaferthike... oso gia tis apostaseis... podia/lewforeio/taksi... ta xw synithisei pleon...

an thes na ziseis auto pou akous ap'olous "foititiki zwi" i athina sigoura den einai i katallili poli- protimise kapoia mikroteri.

ap'tin alli esy athina standard tha peraseis wraia, etsi pisteyw.

einai ligo dyskoli apofasi na ksanadwseis alla an eisai vevaios k apofasismenos oti thes na ta pas kalytera k na ziseis se alli poli pisteyw oti aksizei ton kopo!

gama ti "foititiki zoi" ton mikron poleon.gidia kai kathysterimenoi einai se oles tis sxoles.toulaxiston stin athina tha peraseis kala,tha xeis ena meros na pas kai tha vreis 2-3 atoma na peis mia malakia aksioprepws xoris na ntrepesai gia ton eauto sou kai tis parees sou.

Ahm egw thn prwth xronia pou edwsa perasa Tei hlektronikhs thessalonikh (apo ekei eimai) alla it sucked kai apofashsa na ksanadosw.
Xalara den tha to ksanakana,einai poly vareto pragma.Tespa dhlwsa sxoles se olh thn xwra kai perasa Aei noshleutikhs sthn athina :shock:

Egw den edwsa kan panellhnies. Emeina aneksetasteos se 4 ma8hmata apo ta opoia, ta 3 htan kormou, kai to ena desmhs. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Τη δεύτερη φορά σαφώς είναι ευκολότερο να δώσεις, αρκεί να μην αγχώνεσαι.

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DIAFWNW ... re einai dynaton na dineis panellhnies KAI NA MHN EXEIS AGXOS?? h kalytera... ayto to psixoplakwma kai to varos sto stithos pou de se afinei na eyxaristitheis tpt alla na skeftesai diarkws to diavasma k to gamimeno kalokairi pou tha pizeis?? giati mexri ioulio eksetaseis dinoume. pou gia mena ayto einai aparadekto.. (isws to mono pragma pou paradexomai tous agglous.. mexri maio ola TELOS)

kala isws mporei na eimai egw etsi... h isws na ftaei to oti edina me tis desmes pou htan pio aggouri ta pragmata... ti na pw

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Το 10% είναι για περίπτωση που σκέφτεται κανείς "Καλά είμαι εδώ, αλλά ας το βάλω μωρέ μπας και πάω κάπου ελαφρώς καλύτερα".

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ti einai ayto re paidia?? :shock:

basika exw perasei apo Agglia. Ekatsa gia 2 xronia (hmoun kai se Uni psila sth sxetikh lista) kai ta parathsa o malakas. Ta eixa ola ekei (to mono asximo sthn agglia gia mena einai ta panakriba tsigara kai to oti den exei frape sta perissotera cafe) alla den iksera ti ithela kai efiga. malakas... eimai se poly kalh sxolh edw, ki edw kala eimai, alla merikes fores skeftomai oti sthn Agglia exeis prosbash se perissotera pragmata.

stin Ellada isws exeis parees, sto ekswteriko yparxei provlima na vreis parees (kali wra egw) an den kynigas apo pisw tous Ellines.

Dwse Athina i Thessaloniki pantws, an erxesai apo mikri poli tha deis allo tropo zwis. kalytera pigaine episkepsi prwta merikes meres, mpas kai den tin antexeis me tipota tin Athina

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kala isws mporei na eimai egw etsi... h isws na ftaei to oti edina me tis desmes pou htan pio aggouri ta pragmata... ti na pw

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Το 10% είναι για περίπτωση που σκέφτεται κανείς "Καλά είμαι εδώ, αλλά ας το βάλω μωρέ μπας και πάω κάπου ελαφρώς καλύτερα".

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ti einai ayto re paidia?? :shock:

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pio aggouri na dineis 4 ap'oti na dineis 9
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to 10% einai oti kai kala mporeis na 3anadwseis mhxanografiko, prosferetai to 10% twn 8esewn se upopshfious prohfoumenwn etwn
...nomizw

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stin Ellada isws exeis parees, sto ekswteriko yparxei provlima na vreis parees (kali wra egw) an den kynigas apo pisw tous Ellines.

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makria apo ellhnes sto e3wteriko.

epishs

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kalytera pigaine episkepsi prwta merikes meres, mpas kai den tin antexeis me tipota tin Athina

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opwsdhpote. Giati mporei na fas trelh frikh meta kai na mh mporeis na kaneis tpt

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h isws na ftaei to oti edina me tis desmes pou htan pio aggouri ta pragmata...

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Βασικά δεν καταλαβαίνω γιατί με το νέο σύστημα είναι πιο δύσκολα τα πράγματα.Ανταγωνιστικό είναι και πάλι,όποιοι γράψουν καλύτερα θα περάσουν.Οι θέσεις στις σχολές αναλογικά είναι ίδιες (αν δεν αυξάνονται)-πάντως σίγουρα δε μειώνονται.ΚΟΥΡΑΦΕΞΑΛΑ

de gkzero ti paizei me to neo systima,pantos oi desmes itan arketa eukoles.
epernes 3 mathimatakia,opoia saresan/theorouses pio eukola kai diavazes tin standar yli-tyflosourti.
dld itan (kata ti gnomi mou) arketa eukolo na grapseis kala,an isoun sygkentromenos (genika).


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auto pou eipe o dragon me tis theseis stis sxoles isxyei ontos.
sto etos mou eimaste 80 atoma,sto ena parakato (oi protoi me neo systima) einai 100+,sto epomeno 120,sto allo 140 kok.

solo malakia ekanes pou piges.egw xanadinw twra... :roll: kai exw frikarei.

mhn to les... pote den ksereis, mporei kai na mou vgei se kalo.

allwste mesa se autous tous ligous mhnes pou eimai foitits exw allaksei *poly*. toulaxiston etsi otan paw athina den tha me entelws psaromenos.

telos pantwn, ygeia na xoume kai ola ta alla erxontai mona tous

Min kanete tetoia topics reeee..Se ena mina dinw gia prwth fora..Prwsopika den antexw na ksanadwsw(paali frontistiria,pali phksimo).Apoti kserw me tis desmes apla to epipedo twn eksetasewn htan ypshlotero.To 8ema einai oti egw prepei na dwsw 10 ma8hmata(mazi me arxes oikonomias) ta opoia apaitoun trelo diavasma.Ante elpizw na kathforisw pros Athens h na anhforisw pros 8essalonikh.Wish me luck re.:twisted:

EDIT:Solo Carriera kalh mas epityxia.

:lol: nai nai.. typiki apantisw olwn sas oti ta 4 einai pio eykola apo ta 9... nai nai.. otan akougetai 9-4 fisika akougetai pio eykola...

stin pragmatikotita den einai etsi.. kai to lew giati ezisa tin aderfi mou pou edwse me to neo systima kai tin evlepa ti mathimata edine ta frontistiria pou ekane.. thn ylh ths kai ta diagonismata pou edine ... kai fisika kai tis idies tis panellhnies.. ntaksi re paidia h mera me thn nyxta... KAI TO VASIKOTERO, TO DIAVASMA POU EKANE.... tpt se sxesh me emena.. kai oxi den einai kamia pou ta pairnei eykola.. vlameno entelws einai :P

oi protodesmites eidika nomizw pws me to neo systima SIGOURA tha ta evlepan pio eykola ta pragmata..

opote ntaksi mi leme oti theloume an den exoume zisei kai tis dio katastaseis
ayta
:D

to kalitero pou eixe to sistima twn desmwn kai den isxiei twra einai oti mporouses na kratiseis osa ma8imata eixes kalo ba8mo kai na min ta ksanaedines ola

Morgana to thema einai pws me tis desmes mporouses se 2 xronies na diavaseis apo 2 mathimata kai na peraseis opou goustareis.Enw me to kainourio prepei na ta dwseis OLA apo thn arxh. :)

Solo an ksanadwseis prospathise na pareis arxes oikonomias (an goustareis vevaia...) einai mathima paneukolo (mikrh sxet. hlh/ta themata htan gtpk oles tis prohgoumenes xronies) sto opoio to 70% peripou grafei panw apo 16-17... Prwsopika me vohthise poly...

@solo carriera: mhn masas, an thes kati pragmatika kynhga to, ta TEI pliroforikhs einai kala (akoma) opou kai na pas. Egw sth Larissa TEI pliroforikis prospathw na vgalw :evil: :cry: :oops: :x

polla polla skata
well
sta 18 mou (to 98 ) phga kai dwsa prwth fora gia plaka (malakia mou twra omws to blepw etsi)
sta 19 mou me th deuterh perasa apo desmes panta se stratiwtikh sxolh (ana8ema thn wra)
ekatsa ena mhna ekei mesa eida ti einai aggaria kai kampseis eida ta skata phra kai skata eidikothta kai epeidh egw 8elw na me free na kanw otidhpote (apo to malli kai ta mousia mexri to pws 8a milaw) shkw8hka kai efyga me to pou teleiwse h propedeush(gia na mh me poun kota :P )
anyway me th trith perasa dioikhsh epix sth kabala opou perasa gamw alla mou leiepei to spiti mou kai phra metagrafh (to pws thn phra einai allo 8ema :P ) gia ta tei peiraia
ftanoume shmera kai gamw to spiti tou systhmatos de goustarw mia ana8ema thn wra pou phga geniko lykeio kai gamw to soi mou pou me ekane na parw la8os apofaseis
auta
kata talla h zwh synexizete :P

Solo egw ta dika mou nomizw sta exw pei. Pantws afou les den goustareis Hrakleio, (gnwmh mou) mlkia einai na kynhghseis Athina. Den exw vevaia kai empeiria, alla 2-3 symathites mou pou perasan ekei, oute mia mera den ekatsan Athina kai phran metagrafh. Ta TEI Athinas einai gtp apo oti akouw, ta AEI sigoura tha einai kalytera, egw pantws tha protimousa stantar Thess.

Me to neo systhma exoun aykshthei shmantika oi theseis sthn 3vathmia. Ayto einai stantar kako, mas to elegan oi kathigites sto prwto etos efarmoghs, meta to eidame ki emeis. Oso ligoteroi mpainoun toso kalytera, apo oles tis apopseis.

@sympo: profanws mphkes me to sythma twn desmwn. Apo paidia pou exw gnwrisei, sigoura oi desmes htan dyskoloteres. Mpainan px sto TEI edw kai eixan ta mathimata (toulaxiston ta 2 prwta eksamhna) gtp. Pou shmainei oti eixan safws parapanw gnwseis apo emas, afou eixan emvathynei sta mathimata. Nomizw oti me tis desmes htan kalytera, giati empenes opou empenes xwris polla kena (egw px oloklhrwmata den eixa kanei sto lykeio, ante na ta matheis sto TEI meta). Enw me to neo systhma pairneis genikes gnwseis afou exeis polla mathimata (emeis tote dwsame 12-13!!!), alla ti na tis kaneis afou meta pas gia ekseidikeysh se kati. Skata, to systhma prepei na allaksei apo vathia.

Ego stin periodo ton Panellinion nomizo oti imoun pio xalaros kai anetos apo polles perissoteres periodous tis zois mou... isos epeidi tora ta xo grammena OLA kai eimai akoma pio xalaros na mou fainetai vevaia etsi. Pantos den exo katalavei ena soro kopeles pou mou lene oti tous exei meinei vioma ekeini i epoxi kai ta apisteuta xenuxtia... Ti na po. Periergo mou fainetai.

Ego edosa mono Ekthesi deuteri fora kai perasa se mia sxoli pou goustaro polu perissotero ki as eixe perissotera moria i proigoumeni. Simasia exei ti goustareis na kaneis. Athina an eisai apo eparxia rulz gia foititiki zoi, edo ego pou eimai apo Athina mou fainetai mia xara, to mono provlima einai oi goneis, pragmatika. Kata ta alla mia xara einai.

skeftomai na pao londino (mono) gia sxoli pou den piano edo.
episis skeftomai posa GIDIA exoun mazeutei ekei panw (k posoi apautous einai metallades) kai mou pernaei, nomizo.
kai pali, omws, kai i 8essaloniki gemise apauta.
Ελπ

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, alla 2-3 symathites mou pou perasan ekei, oute mia mera den ekatsan Athina kai phran metagrafh.

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oi symmathites sou einai gidia xoriates irakliotes.

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Apo paidia pou exw gnwrisei, sigoura oi desmes htan dyskoloteres.

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emena mou fanikan eukoles.an eixes gnorisei emena dld (kai polla atoma pou ksero kai tous eixan fanei poly eukoles) tha eixes alli gnomi loipon.


whatever,an den eisai kathysterimenos ola eukola einai.ektos apauta pou xreiazontai (kanoniko) diavasma e.

se ola paizei rolo h tyxh kai nh sygkyria(ektos kai an kapoios einai entelws politically correct dytikos kai pisteuei oti ola ta kerdise autos/h,ta katafere me thn a3ia tou kai loipa xristiano-protestantiko-kapitalistika 3erata...).fysika,osoi nomizoun oti oi an8rwpoi metriountai apo tis e3etaseis kata thn gnwmh mou einai MALAKES!(de lew, to 12 apo to 19,99999 apexei,alla de leei kai polla gia thn fysh tou an8rwpou.den ennow 'fyta' kai mlkies...ennow kati poly poly xeirotero....).
sthn ellada pantws oloi 8eloun na apotyxeis kai kanoun ta pragmata pio dyskola apo oti einai.p.x. ka8hghtes,panepisthmiakoi.ftiaxnei se merikous tomeis omws(kai pali mesw twn atomwn-periptwseis).
egw ebala biologos a8hna,giati h8ela na exw kales baseis gia periballontologia kai den perasa.kapoios pou to ebale san rebound apo iatrikh profanws 8a paraponietai.xesthka.etsi kai alliws,eutyxws pou h8ika/metafysika/ktl mpourdes mou aresei auto pou kanw(kanena mellon kai ka8olou talento,alla de peirazei...mporw akoma na trww,na perpataw kai na akouw sleep...
cheers