Erwthsh gia piatinia

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16-01-2005, 07:01
Panoramix_Miraculix

Erwthsh gia piatinia

h8ela na allaksw piatinia sto set mou pou twra exw kati elleinous tenekedes. eixa katalhksei sta 502 ths Paiste, sygkekrimena ta:

14'' HiHat
16'' Crash
16'' Power Crash
20'' Ride
10'' Splash

apto stolla ta tsimpaw me 500 euro peripou. genika einai arketa ta lefta kai 8elw na eimai sigouros oti de 8a paixtei kamia stravh, giafto apekleisa to ebay kai to net genikotera. vasika 8elw aplws na mou peite gia to stolla an eixate kapoia synallagh ti entypwseis eixate klp. 8a protimousa na mh parw apo megalo katasthma mousikwn eidwn, alla opws telika diapistwsa o stollas promh8evei ta misa kai parapanw mikra katasthmata, opote den exei kai poly nohma. episis an kserete tpt gia ta 502 tis paiste k an eina kalh agora, an exete ypopsh sas kati allo antistoixo me kalyterh timh klp.
16-01-2005, 11:17
The Charon

o stollas einai antiproswpos sthn ellada se para polles etaireies.

oi times pou poulane ola ta katasthmata pou promh8euontai apo ton stolla einai fix.uparxei koinos timokatalogos apo ton stolla.Twra h ekptwsh pou pezei na se kanei o stolla einai standart.Se katasthma pou isws ta exoun stock pezei na se kanoun kaluterh timh gia na feugoun apo to emporeuma tous.To oti ta promh8eutikan apo ton stolla den leei tpt.

Twra gia ta ellinika ta dedomena(den 3erw gia krousta , alla gia ki8ares pou fernei) einai overpriced oi times tous.Se olous tous antiproswpous.Sthn 8esh sou ean ta eixa dokimasei ta piatinia kai eimoun sigouros oti 8elw auta 8a koitousa apo online katasthmata tou e3wterikou.Yparxei pi8anothta na breis pio fthna.

endeiktika:
http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/paiste_ ... dinfo.html
http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/paiste_ ... dinfo.html
http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/paiste_ ... dinfo.html

sto sunolo(den 3erw ta metaforika) einai sta 314euro

apo ekei kai pera mporei epeidi einai set na kanoun kai kaluterh timh.psa3imo 8elei kai na eise sigouros oti 8eleis authn thn seira.
17-01-2005, 01:51
Panoramix_Miraculix

vasika molis anakalypsa to thomann.de kai exw pa8ei ti plaka mou me tis times. to pio pi8ano einai oti 8a ta parw apo ekei telika. einai trela pio f8hna apo ellada, glitwnw toulaxiston 100 euro an ta parw apo ekei.
17-01-2005, 06:17
silencerius

theCharon thanks eixa dei auto to site prin kairo meta to xasa kai to psaxna :*

Par'ola auta apo oti blepw einai pio akribo apo to www.musik-produktiv.de e? Panoramix psakse kai sto teleutaio na deis mipws einai ftinotero s'auta pou psaxneis (egw ena petalaki pou thelw to thomman to xei 15 euro akribotero)
17-01-2005, 11:50
Coroner

Ta pramata einai opws ta leei o Charon. To thomann einai a3iopisto. Arketoi filoi mou exoun parei apo kei kai malista enas e3oplismo 3000 euro.

Ta 502 einai h pio kalu fthnh seira ths paste. An de se endiaferei na ta pareis ola mazi 8a sou proteina na akouseis thn seira alpha pou gamei, alla einai akrivoterh h kai thn 802.
17-01-2005, 15:34
The Charon

silencerius exei ena faq kapou sto thomann kai leei oti ean ta vreis kapou pio f8hna pezei h periptwsh na mhn einai updated h selida me to proion.

http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/thoiw2_faq.html
17-01-2005, 16:02
eyeamflesch

eBay
17-01-2005, 17:06
The Charon

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeamflesch

eBay

STANDART
18-01-2005, 23:12
soulless9

mhn mpw se leptomereies. mia xara se briskw. ayta pou exeis grapsei einai mia xara. egw proswpika xrhsimopoiw sabian kai goustarw pio polu. ola einai upokeimenika bebaia, alla pisteyw oti einai polu kala piatinia..
loipon sto thema mas. apo ton stola eixa synallagh tou ypsous twn 3000 eyrw. ntaks? cool?
ta 502 einai arketa kal. eidika gia ta lefta tous. egw tha phgaina sto drum store sta eksarxeia. einai polu kalo magazi. tha se boithisei, kai den tha exei probs.
19-01-2005, 00:38
Panoramix_Miraculix

hm, ta 502 apo stolla einai pio akriva apo ta 802 an ta parw apo net. opote 8a parw ta 802 apo net. ayta.
19-01-2005, 18:46
philiptheg

re file xwris pareksigisi twra alla to skeftikes kala gia ta paiste?
egw exw
zildjian avendis custom 14'' hit hat
sabian hand hammered 16'' crush
sabian hand hammered 17'' dark crush
sabian rock ride 22''

kai vgazoun teleio ixo...mipws na koitouses kana sabian?egw eimai terma porwmenos me sabian.ta paiste ta thewro aisxra vasika.ektos apo kapoia liga.Den lew oti dne einia kala piatinia!apla gia emena einia xalia!
19-01-2005, 18:51
Solo Carriera

Quote:

Originally Posted by theCharon

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeamflesch

eBay

STANDART

ορθή τέχνη;
20-01-2005, 01:23
Panoramix_Miraculix

nai ok omws gia mena eisai aplws mia akoma gnwmh, ayto to kairo exw diavasei arketes gia diafores etaireies, katelhksa sth paiste gia diaforous logous. ta paiste symfwna me arketous sto net einai ta pio an8ektika sto xrono, ena apo ta pio shmantika zhthmata gia mena, kai exoun kalyterh apodosh gia ta lefta tous. ta sabian genika exw akousei oti vgazoun kalytero hxo, alla einai arketa pio akriva kai poly pio evais8hta. to idio isxyei kai gia ta zildjian. gia th kathgoria pou psaxnw egw pistevw oti paiste einai h kalyterh epilogh. an8ektika, kalos hxos, kalh timh.
20-01-2005, 10:44
Coroner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panoramix_Miraculix

nai ok omws gia mena eisai aplws mia akoma gnwmh, ayto to kairo exw diavasei arketes gia diafores etaireies, katelhksa sth paiste gia diaforous logous. ta paiste symfwna me arketous sto net einai ta pio an8ektika sto xrono, ena apo ta pio shmantika zhthmata gia mena, kai exoun kalyterh apodosh gia ta lefta tous. ta sabian genika exw akousei oti vgazoun kalytero hxo, alla einai arketa pio akriva kai poly pio evais8hta. to idio isxyei kai gia ta zildjian. gia th kathgoria pou psaxnw egw pistevw oti paiste einai h kalyterh epilogh. an8ektika, kalos hxos, kalh timh.

Mallon sumfwnw. Ap' oti exw akousei kai mena ta Sabian me aresoun perissotero, enw apo china mallon pros zidjan. Ti na to kaneis omws afou einai arketa pio akriva. Ta Paiste einai kati san tis Ibanez stis ki8ares. Sxetika fthna kai a3iopista.
29-01-2005, 21:51
dreamer

Na kanw merikes parathrhseis pou isws na mhn exoun lhf8ei ypopsin:

Ta Sabian, Zildjian piatinia einai (pleon, den htane panta etsi gia ta Zildjian) Kanadikhs/Amerikanikhs kataskeuhs, synepws h timh pou vlepoume se afta sthn Eurwph emperiexoun kai dasmous/metaforika pou anagkastika ta kanoun pio akriva. H Paiste exei kai ergostasio sthn Elvetia (de kserw an to ergostasio sthn Es8onia exei kleisei), gegonos pantws einai pws oi times tous einai sigoura akrives, throumenwn twn analogiwn. An deite ta high end montela, px hi-hats, h Paiste exei 10 peripou montela metaksy 350-500€, kammia allh etaireia den exei tosa piatinia toso akriva.

Afto apla pou ginetai einai pws bgazoun kai montela low-end (302,502) mesa apo thn epwnymia "Paiste" opote kalyptoun kai merida tou agorastikou koinou pou ta Sabian, Zildjian AN kanoun, to kanoun mesw allhs epwnymias (lx Meteor klp. O logos pou ginetai afto den ton gnwrizw, isws gia na mh "xalasoun" to onoma ths etaireias? Einai akrivws h idia fash me ta "noname" cdr's omws pou EINAI kapoias etaireias apla den kouvalane to onoma ths). Etsi fainetai ek prwths opsews h Paiste na kalyptei megalytero range proiontwn kai ara na einai h pio f8hnh.

Apo ekei kai pera oso akrivo h f8hno na einai ena piatini ennoeitai pws to thema einai na sou aresei o hxos tou, aneksarthtws timhs. Pantws afta pou diavasa peri an8ektikothtas klp mou fainontai arvyla, xwris na kserw ti paizetai. An frontizeis ena piatini mporeis na to exeis gia mia zwh kai vale.. Yparxoun martyries yparxoun apo piatinia tou '50 h kai tou '40 pou exoun epiviwsei stis meres mas se poly kalh katastash. Mou fainetai einai perissotero diakrito metaksy eidwn piatiniwn para markas..ena splash einai pio eukolo na sou ragisei apo ena ride lx. k.o.k.

Giati omws den exeis skeftei katholou na dokimaseis alles "eurwpaikes" markes? Px Meinl, UFIP, Istanbul, Turkish klp? Oles exoun poly aksiologa montela kai sigoura poly f8hnotera apo tis parapanw.
30-01-2005, 22:15
philiptheg

nomizw oti simfwnw apolitws me ton dreamer...gia emena ta sabian eina korifi omws.gia to ayti mou kai mono gia to ayti mou.Den milaw otue gia poiotita oute gia tpt.Kataskeyastika den mporw na pw oti kapoia marka ysterei...edxw dei spasmena piata apo oles tis markes alla exw dei kai pampalaia piata epeishs apo oles tis markes...ama ksereis na ta prosexeis den einai anagi na fovasai tpt...Pantws to Sabian mou to rock ride to exw voutiksei stin mpaniera kai to exw plinei me sapouni!Me ena kalo skoupisma meta kai einai teleio!!
Ta istabul einia poli kala piata alla psilo tzazizoun...
File mou ama thes kala kai fthna pigaine ston trimi kai pare stagg!!!Eggyhmena kai fthna.Vgazoun kalo ixo oxi teleio...Kapoio ayti to opoio den kserei polla tha porwthei alla o kalos o drummer tha katalavei oti einai moufa.Kata ta alla an den thes kati poli kalo pare ayta.Milame gia 25 eyrw splash 100 yrw crush kai tetoies times...
31-01-2005, 00:05
soulless9

paidia mhn to syzhtate.. h sabian exei tis kaluteres seires piatiniwn sthn agora ths elladas. an theloume na pame pio makria pame se instanbul/turkish ayta ta piatinia apla GAMANE!!!!
31-01-2005, 13:26
philiptheg

mexri stigmis osa istanbul exw dei einai poli jazz kai den einai ayto akrivws pou psaxnw...kata ta alla distixws den ta kserw!
31-01-2005, 13:58
soulless9

genika ta goustarw egw ta jazz piatinia alla i alitheia einai oti exei polles seires kai yparxei kati gia olous.
31-01-2005, 21:37
dreamer

An den exeis vrei hdh ta links,

http://www.istanbulcymbals.com/
http://www.meinl.de/
http://www.ufip.com/
http://www.turkishcymbals.com/
http://www.istanbulmehmet.com/

Eidika gia ta Istanbul (agop, prwto link), antiproswpeuontai kai apo ton Gavrilo (http://www.gabrieldrums.com) opote mporeis kallista na petaxteis sto magazi tou na akouseis hxo, apokleietai na mhn vreis estw kai ena piatini pou na mh sou aresei o hxos tou, kai oi times tous para poly logikes.
Twra an skeftesai na pareis apo Germania piatinia (thomann kai musik-produktiv) des kai ta Meinl, kai afta se poly filikes times kai poly poiotika.. An sou aresoun oi Spock's Beard kai o hxos twn piatiniwn tou D'Virgilio, skepsou pws einai endorser ths Meinl (ton anaferw giati to drum recording twn SB einai ena kalo kai sxetika spanio pleon paradeigma hxografhshs rock drums xwris na einai tigka sta triggers/noise gates/compression -- afto pou akous moiazei poly ston fysiko hxo tous! :))
31-01-2005, 22:33
soulless9

a mprabo ena pou eixa ksexasei meinl. para polu kala alla pali ta instanbul den paizontai , einai teleia!
01-02-2005, 06:46
Panoramix_Miraculix

re ti ka8ikia pou eiste :( panw pou pisteva oti eixa kanei th swsth epilogh. na pw thn alh8eia variemai na psaksw allo. isws kai na exete dikio. gia meinl kai instabul omws de vrhka kai polla sto net otan epsaxna, logiko 8a mou peis vevaia afou to 90% xrhsimopoiei paiste/zildjian/sabian. then again thats the point eh? :P

tespa eyxaristw olous gia to xrono tous :)
01-02-2005, 19:32
The Charon

http://stores.ebay.com/JAKES-MUSIC-P...QQftidZ2QQtZkm

sto banneraki tou ER koita ti bazoun.
10-02-2005, 23:31
billpod

loipon......pisteuo pos einai mia kali protash ta paiste 502.......alla den tha exanes kati na deis kai instabul......mporeis me ta idia lefta ande k liga parapano na pareis kati ligo pio epagelmatiko.....but anyway einai kali epilogh....... dialegeis............ :?: